US Law is always complicated because of the status of American U.S. Federal States inside the United States.
The Law of the U.S. is really is a sorry mess in some places due to the factionalists in some places.
Right now the Federal Government under Trump is really being pernicious right now.
A lot of this is by the Electoral College's design and the Ambiguous nature of both The Federal Supreme Court of the United States and also several provisions of the United States CODIFIED Constitution of 1787 (U.S.C, all written constitutional aritcles.)
The Interprative nature of the Supreme Court also plays somewhat of a role whenever those powers are abused by legalist strict constructionist Far-Right Justices on the Bench Of The Supreme Court (Federal) Of The United States.
Plus GW Bush the Younger and the Patriot Act made unwarranted police intimidation easier under the War On Terror, first with people in Wars Abroad, then First Trump Cabinet did the same with Foreign Residents in the USA, then the same under Second Trump Cabinet with USA Citizens of All Kinds and all other people.
The USA is not really safe like it was in earlier times for nudists, like it was about 12 years ago in 2013 under the Barrack Obama Cabinet.
Now, it seems Republicans in elected offices are really trying to intimidate "Different People" and "Immigrants" regardless, including some amount of the USA Citizens who happen to be "NUDISTS" inside BLUE DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CITIES including Chicago and DC, as both cities are under a horrifying ILLEGAL occupation by THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT right now.
Resources within wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_(government)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_state
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesting_Clauses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_of_the_president_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_judiciary_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_governments_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_court_(United_States)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_court
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_equity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_Court_of_Chancery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courts_of_Delaware
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_District_Court_for_the_District_of_Delaware
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware_General_Corporation_Law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_district_court
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_judicial_district
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Third_Circuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_courts_of_appeals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Federal_Circuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_District_of_Columbia_Circuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Conference_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariffs_in_the_second_Trump_administration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_the_United_States
NUDIST RESOURCES:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturism_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lis%C3%A9e_Reclus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reclus_family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Zisly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHM_Montalivet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendays-Montalivet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturism_in_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNEL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Naturist_Federation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festival_of_Britain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Naturism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothing_laws_by_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_obscenity_law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indecent_exposure_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_toplessness_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity_and_sexuality
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexualization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_recreation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_nudity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothing_in_ancient_Egypt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothing_in_ancient_Greece
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outraging_public_decency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Order_Act_1986
NON WIKIPEDIA RESOURCES ABOUT NATURISM:
BRITISH NATURISM https://www.bn.org.uk/
INTERNATIONAL NATURIST FEDERATION (INF-FNI) https://inf-fni.org/
Yes. Good to see the use for looking this up.
For resources about British Naturism check out the British Naturism organization and their website:
https://www.bn.org.uk/
All these links are helpful for Americans and British people and other people visiting these regions.
Some of the wikipedia links you might have to independently verify, but much of the wikipedia links should be reliable.
Thank you for sharing this vital information. Its crucial that everyone understands: in the UK, nudity in public is legal under specific conditions, especially when the activity is passive (like sunbathing, walking, or cycling) and there is no intent to cause distress.British Naturism (BN) has done excellent work collaborating with police and producing clear guidelines to protect these rights. Unfortunately, misunderstandings among call handlers and some police officers continue to create unnecessary problems for naturists.Education and awareness are key. The more we share resources like the BN legal guides and Police College document, the stronger our community becomes in defending the right to enjoy naturism responsibly and legally.Lets keep spreading knowledge and supporting BNs tireless efforts.
OK I've not been on for quite some time, but found this thread intersting to read. To understand the police take on being naked or nudism however one would like to word it, we have to delve deeper into the archives. Many years back the press approached the police force asking them what they would do with men and women who were gays and lesbians. The police in response immediately said "We will prosecute anyone" like that, its illegal.
The press came straight back at them with evidence of police officers being gay and lesbian in nature. A senior police official asked the press to allow them time to get to the bottom of this problem, saying the police are not that sort of people and they will sort the problem out.
The chiefs of police then carried out internal investigations with their own police force and concluded that 85% of the police force at that time was either gay or lesbian.
Back in year 2003 after BN had meetings with Parliament in London, new legislation was carefully drafted and put into law.
Now remember this... The police officers will maintain that if you are in that social circle, then you are that social circle, no exceptions. Many police officers don't agree with this change in law.
The point of my reply...
The police and the documentation you have above through BN is not because the police changed their attitudes and agreed to it, it is however because BN after repeatedly trying to get the police to understand and change their views on this subject that BN had no alternative but to go over the heads of the police force and have direct meetings with Parliament in London England. The outcome of the meetings was as written in the documents you've read, with the exception that Parlimant actually "guarantees" public nudity is legal anywhere in the UK, however, experience has shown that many police officers will not accept it personally and still make unnecessary arrests. It is also understood that the police sargents do back the police officers within this illegal practice.
The only solicitors I've found that can legally apply the correct laws to this subject are BN. Duty and street solicitors are paid for out the same pot of money as the police, hence they will work closely with them and not unbiased and defend your rights, BN solicitors are not paid for by the state.
While the laws are in place, they are not widely known by many, and many people still think and believe that the naked human body exposed is indecent!!
How can that be is beyond me. We are born that way. Its the most natural normal standard of life there is.
Back in year 2003 after BN had meetings with Parliament in London, new legislation was carefully drafted and put into law.Now remember this... The police officers will maintain that if you are in that social circle, then you are that social circle, no exceptions. Many police officers don't agree with this change in law.The point of my reply...The police and the documentation you have above through BN is not because the police changed their attitudes and agreed to it, it is however because BN after repeatedly trying to get the police to understand and change their views on this subject that BN had no alternative but to go over the heads of the police force and have direct meetings with Parliament in London England. The outcome of the meetings was as written in the documents you've read, with the exception that Parlimant actually "guarantees" public nudity is legal anywhere in the UK, however, experience has shown that many police officers will not accept it personally and still make unnecessary arrests. It is also understood that the police sargents do back the police officers within this illegal practice.The only solicitors I've found that can legally apply the correct laws to this subject are BN. Duty and street solicitors are paid for out the same pot of money as the police, hence they will work closely with them and not unbiased and defend your rights, BN solicitors are not paid for by the state.While the laws are in place, they are not widely known by many, and many people still think and believe that the naked human body exposed is indecent!!How can that be is beyond me. We are born that way. Its the most natural normal standard of life there is.
Yes, we are born that way, and yes, it is the most normal standard there is.
Judgementality is what people definitely have, and I think this amounts to being formed from narrowed preferences many people are being enforced upon themselves and others!
There are some issues around the world, regarding "corruption and authoritarianism," but also including "corruption and authoritarian totalitarianism and authoritarianism with totalitarian corruption" at whole other levels in parts of the world.
Of course, yes, the world has problems.
The worst part is, however, that people are choosing to make problems worse when the worsening of our problems are preventable.
Maybe some people will learn some things, sooner rather than later.
Even in normalization countries where places are legalizing naturism, if there is an extreme authoritarian creep into society of extremist totalitarianism, there is some degree that the corruption will begin multiplying, and that apparently is already going on inside The U.K. in the police forces, even if parliament passes a basic law trying to legalize naturism.
The only people knowing the application of the statute from 2003 really are British Naturism, in the example you listed.
And it appears British Naturism is totally understanding and is correct in how the law is read and interpreted, just that the authortarian totalitarian creep has been the worst in the police around at least that specific isssue and other issues inside the police forces inside the U.K.
Even though the law is applicable to legalize naturism, nobody is going along with the standards to totally permit it everywhere, and too few people know the law like British Naturism does.
And the Parliament is being ignored in local forces in the police in the U.K.
Not only that, the Online Safety Act is blocking access for adults for "Items of Web Content deemed Pornography" and is sickening the already toxic status of the Internet. The Internet is rotting at its core because google and YouTube are forced to comply with the OSA because they did not challenge or block UK access to their companies' websites, because they "didn't want to lose the UK market altogether" or something like that.
So naturism might soon be very doomed in the UK if the internet censors it out in the real world altogether in the UK.
It really is bad. And the Global Application of the OSA to foreign companies who do not break with compliance and LEAVE THE UK ALTOGETHER BLOCKED LIKE CERTAIN WEBSITES BLOCKED ACCESS FROM THE U.K. are going to affect naturist platforms unwittingly online.
I wish for the OSA and dystopian type novel actions being made into real life to not be so badly implemented for evil. I want it all to go away for real.
Totalitarianism is still very bad altogether.
Again, Not good.
The chiefs of police then carried out internal investigations with their own police force and concluded that 85% of the police force at that time was either gay or lesbian.
Would you like to revise this number, or are you sticking with it?
It doesnt really matter, as once again your post proves you have an entirely inept understanding of how laws work and are enforced. Id have hated having to be your solicitor too. (Having , doing all the heavy lifting there)
Ill put this in simple terms a 4 yo could understand.
Nudity is legal in the Uk. Indecent exposure is not.
Sunbathing privately in your garden is fine. Tugging yourself off in front of the neighbours is not fine.
Attending a naturist event is fine. Walking nude around Marks & Spencers is not fine.
Being a naturist is fine, failing to care that the vast majority of people are not and dont understand naturism, is not fine. This is what got you in trouble in the first place.
The chiefs of police then carried out internal investigations with their own police force and concluded that 85% of the police force at that time was either gay or lesbian.Would you like to revise this number, or are you sticking with it?It doesnt really matter, as once again your post proves you have an entirely inept understanding of how laws work and are enforced. Id have hated having to be your solicitor too. (Having , doing all the heavy lifting there)Being a naturist is fine, failing to care that the vast majority of people are not and dont understand naturism, is not fine. This is what got you in trouble in the first place.
Firstly I don't need to revise the numbers, but will accept that 85% of the police force will be a given area of the UK, thus the remaining parts of the country have not yet been assessed as to whether they too have mental health issues, but time will tell...
I do know how the law is written to work, but we are talking about a people here who are chosen for their bulley type nature. The police are well known by experienced criminals for their attitudes of mind and outlook on peoples lives.
Thesedays the solicitors being paid out the same pot of funds as the police are, will not side against their colleagues the police, hence working with them daily. The first solicitor was better than the second solcitor, who was operating both sides of the fence. Somehow reading between the lines the police and second solicitor managed to move the first solcitor on.
Why would that action be necessary?
Being naked in your garden is not unnatural for many people, and many on here have done so and their naighbours don't ring the police about it, hence some people accept what is normal and some people still believe it is indecent exposure, and that being mostly women thinking that.
Now it does not help the naturist when a women mislead in her understanding is told by the police to use her video phone and record neighbours in their garden does it!
It also does not help understanding when a woman walking past a property see's a person naked and then reports it as indecent exposure. The police then come along because a written statement says a man was in his garden naked, and the next door neighbour had set a camera up in his garden zoomed into my house windows, showing nothing, but the police presented that evidence to use as a lever against me, which failed against them, then after arrest and being detained they released without charge. Why!! because they are corrupt and their duty solicitor was not relied on for a defence, who was also corrupt.
You are correct of course, I have an entirely inept understanding of how laws work, but I understand all too well how the minds of the police officer works. Now when the woman was corrected by higher officials in law, the woman told me she was not bothered about me being naked in my garden. Why the change then?
The police tell a second women to video me in the garden then make arrest based on illegal footage, yes it was an illegal practice to record people in their own garden. Later the arogance of the police decided they wanted to push further and arrested a local woman known to me for a domestic but after locking her up overnight interviewed her telling her they would let her off if she wrote a statement saying she had seen me running round the local streets naked chasing the neighbours young childeren.
Now being naked inside/outside your house is one thing, but running after other peoples kids anyone should be locked up if that was the case, to which it was not.
Now the woman arrested would not agree with the police, who then she said spent considerably time trying to convince her not to report the police for their wrong illegal acts.
Once released she rang me and told me what the police said and did. She made a formal complaint and the police complaints department gave me 7 days to bring a crime against the police force?
7 days!!, how the fnck is anyone supposed to get a proper firm of solicitors who are not brain washed by the system to bring charges against a corrupt society of police officers in that time?
What the fnck is all this bullshit from the police that you can be arrested for a crime anytime day or night and crime against the public has no time limit, yet you the police can make your own rules up as you go!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the police are some of the very best liars I've ever come across in my lifetime.
In any event, who the fnck are you police to force your views and laws on the public, which are the most corrupt standards in society.
Some things you police should understand...
We don't want you in the marriage bed,
We don't want you in our private lives,
We don't want you in our own property, physically or otherwise.
We don't want a police run state.
Stay the fnck out our lives.
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