Do you guys think jerking off together is a good middle ground where gay and straight guys can meet?
Sorry if this is too sexual but the introduction to the group ask about things turning sexual so I'm curious what you think about this.
So I'm curious if you all think that straight and gay nudists that are close friends can just rub one out together if one of them gets horny? I've done it before as a straight guy with a gay nudist friend I used to have and I heard others bring it up, just not here.
In my case I once had a gay nudist friend that was cool. We had fun hanging out doing the usual guy stuff like drinking and playing video games. Eventually once we got comfortable we started watching porn and jerking off together. I mean we're both nudists so it wasn't much of a stretch to do that together.
I also tried to be accommodating because he was gay and let him touch my dick a little or sometimes I'll put my dick in his face to help him get off. Of course he tried to go further in the beginning, but I found where the boundary was that I was comfortable with and we ended up at that.
I was good with it too because many times it sucks having to wait till you're home alone just get yourself off. I even once had a female friend that showed my her tits and let me touch them sometimes because she knew I liked tits. She refused to go any further because she had a boyfriend, but I was at least happy that I got to see and touch them. So I think he should feel the same, right? Shit I wished that I could have at least gone a little further and jerked off their to her tits instead of waiting till I got home.
We also had fun trying to find porn we both liked. It was even nice having someone that admired my dick and wanted to touch it. Because it really gets tiring dealing with women that never give a compliment.
Have you guys done something like this? Have you heard of other guys doing this? Or is it just me? Do you think this is a good compromise between straight and gay guys? Curious to hear what all of you have to say.
P.S. I will delete this after a short while for reasons.
You dont need to delete your question or be embarrassed about it! What you wrote is how I feel too, and Im really pleased to be in good company. Im pretty much asexual because Im not a physical / intimate person; I split up with my long term girlfriend because I just couldnt give her what she wanted. I find enjoyment in my own body by being nude. If I did have a relationship it would be with a wonderful woman who shares my values and is similarly minded. Maybe this all explains why I havent found her!
However, I do really enjoy self pleasure with others of the same or other gender and a similar body to mine (not so muscular but definitely physically fit as a runner and cyclist). Theres just something really amazing and special about sitting in a group or with an individual, finding about about each others lives and interests while mutually enjoying our bodies. Everyone goes quiet and we each enter our own little worlds, yet we are doing this together.
Men, of all sexualities, seem far more willing participants than women, and for obvious reasons Id personally find it awkward to venture masturbation with a woman I didnt know unless her male partner was there too and was happy for me to join in.
I really dont like touching other guys willies, Ive tried it once or twice recently and every time I know why its not for me. But if guys want to stimulate mine, bring it on as long as it doesnt go any further. One thing I can say for sure is that I do get admiration for my fairly modest but very tidy appendage.
Sometimes I stay in MrBnB places with gay couples or house shares (never single guys). If the topic or moment comes up I point out that I dont want to go further than self pleasure but I just want willing company for mutual self-enjoyment. Theyre always super accommodating and respectful and we all have an amazing time.
Theres a great place in Brixton - a naked household with flatmates and loads of visitors who come to hang out undressed. Look it up (filter for clothing optional accepted). The occasion passed without event until one of the friends reached over and started stimulating the host, who reacted accordingly. This set me off, and then others joined in. It was absolutely wonderful. Later in the evening the host and I finished ourselves off.
I will say this. It really depend on how a guy raised. I have str8 friends that we've been naked together and jerked off without any sexual connections. Just men drinking and jerking or looking at porn and jerking or dared.
I think it is ok to jerk off together and enjoy the moment, its not a gay or bisexual act its just seen in my eyes as men having sex with men. Then you carry on with normal life, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend. The problem begins when you introduce an emotional side to the relationship and begin to feel a relationship building outside of being just platonic. If you feel you are falling for the guy and want more than just a jerk off session I think then you have to review why you are doing it in the first place as its not just about pleasuring yourself any more in male company.
I also think its ok, why not? Gay or straight. Male or female. If the mood is right and everything is consensual. I have had sex with others watching, masturbated with male and female friends. Its just fun and fun is good right?
I think its natural and normal, depends I guess on the attitude of the people present, but one on one or if you are all on the same page, I feel that it's a common thing, we all do it, and it's more enjoyable when we do it together.
As a student of cultures and history, I'm convinced that men have always been nude, social and expended sexual energy around each other. Whether this was expressed with only men, such as a jerk circle or in mixed companies such as orgies is another matter. People can blame the shift on the Victorian era, but even then there were men's only clubs where it was understood that members could take sexual liberties behind closed doors. I believe that feminism changed this as women gained entry to male only spaces and learned to effectively use homophobia to assert control over men. Feminism has also changed the social contract of marriage to make it more about romance and sexual and emotional loyalty than in the past. The acceptance of being gay as a lifestyle rather than a sexual activity also divided men into camps which might have only been considered differences earlier.
Thus, in keeping with our forefathers and a nod to tradition, jerking off as man among men is completely acceptable. In fact, I don't even think it needs to be debated as long as boundaries are respected. The break with tradition which I see in this matter is discussing this outside of the jerk circle itself. In the past men were more likely to keep such matters private as they saw their lives more in terms of honoring roles and duties - defined more by responsibility than freedom. This is an interesting dynamic. Stepping up to responsibility can give people greater pride, and it can also be repressive. Focusing on freedom can benefit personal development in openness and exploration, but can also become narcissistic. Lastly, I believe that a jerk circle can strengthen the bonds of brotherhood among men, both gay and straight. Whereas I'm not against porn, overly depending on it can detract from the experience. It's best to focus on our own sensuality and sexual energy as individuals and friends with normal human penises and performance abilities.
I love your question and this is a great place for this discussion! I'm a lifelong nudist and I have never been able to understand why masturbation and/or sex are treated the way they are by most nudists. Sexuality is as natural and normal as nudity. Thankfully, I have quite a few nudist male friends. We don't define our relationships by trying to label ourselves or the time we spend together. I have straight, gay, bi male nudist buddies that have had an appetite/need/impulse on more than a few occasions. Someone gets an erection...we go where it takes us. We've masturbated together, swapped oral, I've even bottomed many times. It's all in good fun. I've always believed an erect penis and a load of semen are terrible things to waste.
Excellent topic because I am in exactly this situation with my group of nudist friends. We all meet up at one of the beaches once a week. One is straight, one slightly bi, and the other three, including myself, are gay.
What is very interesting is the straight guy likes to mutually masturbate with the rest of us. It's as if the gay/straight divide disappears, and we are just men, equal with each other, enjoying what we're doing. You've really got nothing to hide once you've masturbated together - and in this regard there's a strong connection with nudism (I know the prudes won't like that, but too bad - it's a fact).
The straight guy knows the gay guys aren't going to come on to him in any kind of emotional way, and his limits are respected. It is really an amazing bond between straight and gay which I never thought I would get to experience.
Since most of my socialising has been in the nudist world, and that masturbation together has been part of that, my answer to the question is a definite yes.
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