I have read the pope takes a bath naked, that does not make him a nudist. In the same way a septuagenarian wearing inappropriate shorts doesnt make him Catherine Bach
Wow exactly how do feel about this subject. You are not holding back any on the contempt.
StevieLorna wrote:If you ask people what a nudist is, theyll say someone who likes walking about with no clothes on.Ask them what an exhibitionist is, theyll say someone who likes flashing their dick/tits at strangers.
I have no problem with that definition. That's because there's a distinct element of sexuality in it. Same for a woman flashing her tits.
I don't think I made myself clear about exhibitionism. For me, it encompasses any attempt to call attention to oneself, like the kid whizzing past you on a bicycle saying "Look at me! No hands!" And I think that it is a component of any performer. Ask any singer or actor if they get a thrill out of being the center of attention and being applauded, and they're probably lying if they deny it. It's an adrenaline rush.
But you are right about the sexual component being a part of what we call "exhibitionism" in nudist environments. I guess there's a distinction between "overt exhibitionism"... dick wagging or boob flashing... and "closet exhibitionism" where a person gets a thrill out of having others see them naked, but doesn't display that thrill and acts just like anybody else. I've met a few of these people, and they admit it when asked about it, but I don't have a problem being around them as long as they keep it to themselves.
So nudism and the "closet" version of exhibitionism are not mutually exclusive, the way nudism and "overt exhibitionism" are. I think I see a distinction where you don't.
Are we clear now?
Woodsman, have you heard of the term narcissist?
That better defines someone seeking adulation than exhibitionist.
Overt, closet, why do you need to make the definition of exhibitionist fluid to suit your argument?
The thrill I get from being on a nudist beach is the same if I am alone or one of a thousand people there.
An exhibitionist needs other people to see them regardless of their consent to the seeing or not.
I Wow exactly how do feel about this subject. You are not holding back any on the contempt.
Its not contempt mate its exasperation. I couldnt care less what he wears.
Hes probably become the most prolific poster over the last year, but far from using that position in a positive promotion of nudism, instead he reposts his own gullibility as facts. Constantly post his personal clothing kink as if its a normal nudist trope and generally just makes stuff up for the sake of posting something.
I Wow exactly how do feel about this subject. You are not holding back any on the contempt.Its not contempt mate its exasperation. I couldnt care less what he wears.Hes probably become the most prolific poster over the last year, but far from using that position in a positive promotion of nudism, instead he reposts his own gullibility as facts. Constantly post his personal clothing kink as if its a normal nudist trope and generally just makes stuff up for the sake of posting something.
I know that you are referring to me. I never make anything up. Some other people here and on other sites may when I assume that they are telling the truth and repeat it.
I view nudity as the end of a continuum and the less someone wears, the closer they are.
I remember recently you said you seen a guy with an erection running into the dunes at gunnison, which later we found out was made up. You made up old men in the 80 couldnt wear short shorts because they all wore boxers and that you have now thrown out more shirts than you ever owned.
But, fair enough. Ive misjudged you.
I Wow exactly how do feel about this subject. You are not holding back any on the contempt.Its not contempt mate its exasperation. I couldnt care less what he wears.Hes probably become the most prolific poster over the last year, but far from using that position in a positive promotion of nudism, instead he reposts his own gullibility as facts. Constantly post his personal clothing kink as if its a normal nudist trope and generally just makes stuff up for the sake of posting something.I know that you are referring to me. I never make anything up. Some other people here and on other sites may when I assume that they are telling the truth and repeat it.I view nudity as the end of a continuum and the less someone wears, the closer they are.
If indeed retelling tales without regard to their validity (as opposed to making them up) certainly illustrates you have more interest in a (meaningless) post count then in actually vetting what you read, believe, and post. Not a way to show that you have put any thought into your posts or to make your posts credible. Not being able to discern the difference between fact and fiction is as troubling as if you make up facts just so you have something to post.
Having been to many nudist venues, clubs, resorts, and events I can tell you the accepted behavior and operational definition of nudism is binary and not a continuum. The length of ones shorts for example is meaningless to the nudists I've met and observed. When dressed they (read we) dress appropriately for the situation. While we may be nude at home and in appropriate social nudist situations, when in the textile world we don't push the envelope on wearing the bare minimum (pun acknowledged).
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