Catwalking and nudity
In early March this year, on a sunny Sunday, we went to Sinsheim specifically to expose our skin to some sun rays. It was chilly but the sun was strong and it made sunbathing in the nude a very pleasant experience. Of course, we also took a couple of sauna sessions and soaked a lot in the thermal pool, sipping cocktails and chilling in each other's naked arms.
There was a young guy who was looking at me very intensely and I had the impression that he was following me wherever I was going. Now, this may happen now and again and some guys are not very discreet when enjoying a landscape full of naked ladies, but this guy had something different, which made me wonder: he was obviously gay.
After a good while, while we were sunbathing, he very politely and ceremoniously approached D, presented a compliment about me and asked for permission to speak to me. Yes, on a logical level I know that I should have hated this, I am a full person, not D's object, but on an emotional level I enjoyed it, felt admired and protected and yes, even somehow surprisingly, respected... I don't know how it works and I'm not going to delve on this here, but it could be an interesting topic in itself.
He asked me if I modelled and I said no, only for a couple of photographers but I'm not interested, thank you. What about fashion, he asked. No. Why not. First, because I'm 40, and second because my boobs and breasts are too big. First, he said, I absolutely don't believe that you are 40, and second, your breasts and bottom are incredibly beautiful.
I often get compliments from gay guys, far more often than from straight guys, but this young fellow seemed to be very educated, sophisticated and nice to talk to. So we talked a bit. Got my fit of compliments, about the elegance with which I moved (I admitted that I had danced competitionally in my youth), about my hair, my sense of fashion (not sure how he judged that, I did have nice slippers and fancy shades but my bathrobe was not flashy and I wasn't even wearing it when we spoke).
Long story short, he presented himself as a co-organiser of some Amsterdam fashion show, the only one exclusively dedicated to accessories, and asked me if I wanted to be a model. He didn't mention any remuneration, but said that models get the best treatment in the world, the red carpet, the limo and best hotels, champagne and flowers, interviews in major media and lots of coverage. Is nudity involved, I asked. Of course, he said, accessories are usually the poor parents of the fashion industry and we don't want to draw attention to any garments other than the ones presented.
A nude fashion show where I would model wearing only hats, shades or shoes, what a wonderful idea. I accepted his business card but it ended either in the bin or in a drawer where I have hundreds of them.
But a few days ago, searching some details about Isis (the goddess, not the group) I fell over some info about the Isis fashion show and I watched some videos, which I found very nice. It looks indeed like a black tie event with nude girls modelling individual accessories. They were all good looking, but only a couple of them fashion-model level, but they looked so endearing and sexy as they fearlessly modelled in the middle of that elegant crowd ( the audience was seated in several rows so this made sure that they would pass inches from every single spectator). They moved well, but not really to the level of professional fashion models - and, forgive me for my lack of modesty but I think I can catwalk better.
In fact, the last such event had just been held (I think it was on 9 May) and looking at those videos I started to have second thoughts.
It's clear that my love affair with a camera, both as a model and as a photographer, comes to a large extent from the inspiration, or rather revelation, I had when I discovered Helmut Newton's work. He was among the first photographers to mix fashion and nudity and to create such powerful images. You can't be indifferent to them, regardless whether your emotion is esthetic or erotic or a combination of both.
And here I come eventually to the real substance of this topic, the role of esthetics and erotics in nudity and nudism. But the topic is too long already so maybe for another time. Suffice to say that for me there is a discreet gradient between nudity, beauty and eroticism and I am not ashamed to admit it. Naked bodies are more beautiful also because those bits are traditionally covered exactly because they are the more erotic ones, which can be stimulated and used for sexual encounters. I'm not saying that we have sexual thoughts each time we see a naked person, far from that. What I'm saying is that there is some correlation between nudity, beauty and eroticism. Not for all and not very strong, but it does exist.
For some, nudism is naturism, is being close to nature, growing hair on your legs and washing once a week in the ocean. Fine for me. For others, it's going all the way to swinging with multiple partners. Fine for me too. I'm none of the above, can I please exist?
Do you shave any part of your body? If yes, why? Because this is how you like it? BS. This is because you want to look better. Because this is how you think the others like you more. Grooming is 10% hygiene and 90% seduction. Desire to look good. And this comes from deep inside our subconscient memory and it is, at its roots, about sexual signaling. Attraction. Am I a bad nudist for accepting this as a fact of life? Maybe. Am I a honest nudist? Sure. What about you?
There are those who say that I shouldn't write about eroticism on a site about nudism because this can increase prejudice about nudists and we can't attract more people into nudism unless we claim that nudist are beings made of lights who feed on sun rays and fresh water and don't know what sex is. I have two answers to this. First, it is not my life's purpose to convert innocent civilians to nudism. I am not the priestess of a religion and I don't need to promote its founding myths. Second, if I were a priestess I should receive praises as I converted around 15 attractive ladies (I don't even count the guys!) to nudism. Or at least to public co-ed nudity on beaches or in spas. And I didn't convince them to drop their kit by telling them that nudists don't even remark when other people are naked, never shave, brush their teeth in the sea and are wonderful people whose only enjoyment in life is to grunt up a hilly trail.
I told them that nudity feels so much better when sunbathing, bathing or enjoying a sauna or a hammam (which is self obvious), that human nudity is beautiful and social nudity is fun, which is true too. And we all wear a bit of makeup in the nude, because we do care how we look. Maybe it's a feminine thing, maybe I will lose this later in life, after menopause or I don't know when (I doubt though) but for the time being I still do care about how I look, nude or dressed, and I accept that this has an attavic root which goes deep down into our need to show that we are good mating potential. And if I am ready to admit this, I think guys should even more readily do it - with their higher testosterone level and increased interest in how we ladies look.
Oh, and I don't know about you but if I spend a week in a nude resort I will have at least twice as much sex as when I spend a week in a textile one. But I guess I can't say that on this site.
But fine, let's forget about these considerations as to how nudity-beauty-eroticism is a continuum and each of us finds a place which they call home on it and let's go back to the original question, that about the possibility to model in the nude in Amsterdam.
What do you think, should I call that guy (he is legit, he's on the web site) and offer my services for the next session? I can't say I am too shy to be nude in public but being nude among black-tie dressed people will undoubtedly make my heart pump harder than usual.
On the one hand, that would be a bit paradoxical. I spent energy trying to make sure that there no online pics of mine which show fully both my body and my face. I have covered or blurred my eyes in this group or I showed my face but without my body. Then all of a sudden I would go full monty for whoever cares to see. Now, I am not naive, I am convinced that there are guys who have had hidden cameras on nude beaches and I once took it all off and danced in a place where people had cameras. But these are at most action pics, with not a very clear face visible.
On the other hand, this is the last time when I could do such silly thing. I look younger than my age, my body is still nice, not too much belly fat and boobs still hanging decently high. Five years from now, this will likely no longer be the case. I don't regret to have so many nude pics. Will I regret to not have the video of my dare on a podium in Amsterdam? Who knows. I could always use some strong makeup and make myself barely recognisable and pretend it must be a look-alike on that catwalk.
Now I am somewhat convinced that all or most of the guys in this group would do it. But try to look at things through my eyes will you.
So long story short, should I go ahead and model for Isis? And if yes, should I share the video here?
You have yet again created a mesmerizing article Flora. You have opened so many doors to absolutely fascinating subjects. The erotic / naturism discussion is definitely worth on depth dialog.
But to your questions I say you should do this. Show them how really incredible 40 can look and in your case DOES look. As far as posting here I bow to your discretion but selfishness on my part prevails and would love to see it here.
Thank you as always Flora.
You have yet again created a mesmerizing article Flora. You have opened so many doors to absolutely fascinating subjects. The erotic / naturism discussion is definitely worth on depth dialog.
But to your questions I say you should do this. Show them how really incredible 40 can look and in your case DOES look. As far as posting here I bow to your discretion but selfishness on my part prevails and would love to see it here.
Thank you as always Flora.
You have yet again created a mesmerizing article Flora. You have opened so many doors to absolutely fascinating subjects. The erotic / naturism discussion is definitely worth on depth dialog.
But to your questions I say you should do this. Show them how really incredible 40 can look and in your case DOES look. As far as posting here I bow to your discretion but selfishness on my part prevails and would love to see it here.
Thank you as always Flora.
It's certainly a challenge for you with the thought your image may reach further than before (and in a complete way, too), but it's an intriguing way to once again push your boundaries. I can certainly imagine you executing the assignment to perfection should you dare, but would your standing in the greaer textile world be affected? Certainly a conundrum, but how can anyone who enjoys that view be critical of you for participating? I'm reluctant to say yes as that key question is for you, but am confident you be a standout if you participated and would look back on your own daring with fondness while having another wonderful experience to share with us.
I'm also curious about whether Jeanne would also be interested, as I'm certain she'd also do well.
Fabulous article, Flora, as usual finding a wonderfully nudist, and erotic element.
Funny, I just posted a reply to an article on another site that was defending the pure tenets of nudism. The key to my response was that I'm a nudist - I prefer being naked, doing whatever allows it - but am I only able to subscribe to 'nudism' if I am naked in a non-sexual way. If I'm on the beach at Le Cap d'Agde, I'm clearly not conforming to nudism, but if I walk 5 minutes onto the Rene Oltra campground, with its fairly strict non-sexual rules, I am. The problem is the 'ism'.
But, to your question... all things being equal, I think you should do it... it would be a wonderful addition to your broad experience of nudity (and maybe, being non-sexual, it counts as nudism? But maybe not as there is of necessity an element of voyeurism). And the videos on YouTube are lovely!
As with the others posting here, I would recommend you engage in the experience. You have noted what it would take and how well it would suit your talents. The event as a whole could open up a new type of experience as you revealed no previous participation in such a fashion show. And, it was probably be a blast to do. As far as photos here, take a look at the different ones and post as you see fit. If needed, just photo shop your features to slightly alter your look; the idea about excess makeup would spoil your natural beauty. Just go for it and have a good time. But the idea that you wouldn't pass the test in 5 years or so is a complete falsehood. You'll still be there ... trust us about this one ... we're guys.
First its wonderful to her from Flora again !
Second you know better than anyone if you should do show.
Third your articles are never to long !
Fourth I have family here right now visiting and cant really respond properly.
Love to read later