Excellent post, Vittorio! See, guys? It's all about respecting each individuals own pace and comfort level. And the more you "push" for it, the more resistance you'll be met with...
Good on you, Vittorio and wife, for having patience and understanding for each other's wants, needs and boundaries.
Jen
How do you overcome religious convictions? Our church is very traditional, and my husband thinks nudity is lewd.
It depends. Is he heavily involved in church affairs? Does his life revolve around church? Not to sound condescending but, does he prefer established knowledge to making up his own mind?
In my case, I had already thrown off the shackles of religion before discovering naturism. But there are others here who are committed to whatever religion they practice and have been able to somehow justify that being nude is okay.
For some people, religion is life itself. These may be the hardest people to change, and it may well prove impossible. For others, religion is but one part of life and can be superseded when facts contradict belief.
Edit - I'd be remiss not to mention that some people also study scripture carefully and come up with interpretations that may not reflect mainstream thinking. This does not make them any less committed to their beliefs, nor any less convinced that their religious path is a right one, or at least as right as the others that exist.
How do you overcome religious convictions? Our church is very traditional, and my husband thinks nudity is lewd.
That could be a tough one.
I know that the way I was raised, merely being aware that men and women were physically different was considered a sin.
Highly contradictory, I know, but as a very young child, you don't question your parents. You just accept. For me, I did question as soon as it became apparent ( noticed breasts, maybe age 4 or so ) that we ARE different, so began to question ( in my own mind ) the validity of somehow something God himself created could possibly be sinful. Of course, my parents had no answer, so suppressed as much as they could.
Genisis does refer to making aprons for themselves, because they realized they were naked.
This is *generally* accepted as the justification that a lack of clothing is sinful.
My take ?
They knew they were naked in that they knew that God could see into their very souls, and God knew what they had done. THAT's what they were trying to hide, not their bodies !
It's my personal view that nude and naked are very different things. One *is* ( or can be ) the result of sin, or itself sinful. The other, not at all.
By my view, the string bikini is much more naked ( and lewd ) than simply being unclothed, which is merely nude.
Keep in mind that you'll not convince him. He needs to come to this himself, since it is a deeply held religious belief, and not merely a social convention. Discussion, where he can ponder and come to his own, will be far more effective than anything you or I might say.
Blessed are those who have questions ! ( there's a Cathoilic book by that or very similar title that justifies examining one's own beliefs )
Hope this helps !
How do you overcome religious convictions? Our church is very traditional, and my husband thinks nudity is lewd.
Hi Lisa, welcome to the site.
You didn't say which religion you husband is, but there are a couple of Christian groups here,
that might have some info on their forums, that may be of interest to you.
If not, there may be others.
CHRISTIAN NATURISTS
Christian Nudists
How do you overcome religious convictions? Our church is very traditional, and my husband thinks nudity is lewd.
The Naturist Society's website under "resources" has a section called "205 Arguments in Support of Naturism" - it includes responses to just about any religious argument.
I have put together a brochure, "So, your partner is interested in nudism..." and will happily email the PDF to anyone. It can also be found at the Travelites' website on the left side of the page with a link. I would recommend printing it out and leave it where your reluctant partner might see it, just don't hand it to him/her. When you're sure it's been seen, offer a compromise. In exchange of an hr or 3 of his/her time, offer something they would really like, ie. you cooking something special or a night out on the town, their choice of tv show or movie, something in your budget. Remember as said above, let your partner know how treasured he/she is and let them know that if for any reason he/she is uncomfortable, you'll gladly leave with them. Nudism isn't for everyone.
:) Cheri
How do you overcome religious convictions?I am so sorry but that really made me laugh...not at the poster but at myself...simply because I had chosen to join the religious life....YES SERIOUSLY , I was training to become a nun........And look at me now!..Well dont look...because I havnt got any clothes on LOL.
Jackie, honey...I just have to tell you that THIS habit is so much more attractive on you!
Jen
How do you overcome religious convictions? I am so sorry but that really made me laugh...not at the poster but at myself...simply because I had chosen to join the religious life....YES SERIOUSLY , I was training to become a nun........And look at me now!..Well dont look...because I havnt got any clothes on LOL.
Jackie, honey...I just have to tell you that THIS habit is so much more attractive on you!
Haha, very good Jen, ...... and Jackie, sooooooo glad you saw the light!
Hi there, My wife and I have been marrried for 10 years and have 2 kids 7 and 4. I want to try the naturist lifestyle on a weekend away with the wife (minus kids at first) but have no idea how to ask her. I am pretty sure she will not be in for it. She is happy nude around the house and kids but she is still loosing wieght and I am not sure she would like it in front of others.
If anyone has any suggestions for me I would appreciate emails to satanact@yahoo.com.au because I cannot get on here that often.
Thanks
Satan
I can and have recommended to others to print out my brochure to reluctant partners (www.travelites.info/brochure.html) and leave it where it will be seend. Do NOT just hand it to her. After you're SURE she's seen it, offer a compromise. In exchange for an hr. or two of her time accompanying you to a nudist venue (AANR and TNS affiliated venues might be the better options but this isn't a guarantee) offer her something she truly would like, ie. you cooking for her, you taking her out to dinner, her choice of TV show or movie, something in your budget. Keep reminding her of how lovely she truly is. Oh....and 3 more things: be patient, be patient, be patient. Nudism truly isn't for everyone. One couple with whom I'm acquainted, she took 10 years to delve into our lifestyle. Now she's the one to drag him to gatherings.
Cheri
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