AndyDi, you make s good point! I've only visited 6 resorts but Caliente was the one that suprised me the most when we attended the dances at night. My wife and I were definitely double minorities in the room LOL. We were 2 of only 4 Black people and part of only a few nude people in attendance with a packed house. I know they may have different philosophies from other resorts.
My wife was not all that gung-ho to venture into social nudism. We'd been home, backyard and secluded area nudists for almost 20 years before she agreed to visit our clothing optional beach. Though clothing optional, 95% + of the people were nude, another small percent of the women were topless and the covered/clothed (bathing suits) were few and far between and stuck out like a sore thumb.
On our first visit, my wife walked with me to our spot wearing a t shirt , shorts and flip flops. As soon as we had cross the delineation line, I was naked. We set up our chairs she sat in her chair with her t shirt and shorts on. THAT lasted about 10 mins. She abruptly stood up and said, "this is stupid. I'm the only one dressed and I feel so out of place." She took off the t shirt and shorts and was naked. She sat the rest of the day until we left. The second visit, she decided to strip at the delineation line and walk naked to our spot. This time, she wanted to go for a walk. As we walked back to our spot, she detoured past all the others all congregated in the most popular area. She then felt like one of them and from then on, she was comfortable being naked amongst all those 100's of other naked people.
My wife took a little time to adjust to every new nudist environment. After the beach, we visited a resort, then our club and each time, she took a little time to adjust to the new nudist venue but did so quickly because of the previous experiences.
Point of this is, it was an adjustment for my wife, who is a self-proclaimed nudist from our wedding day almost 50 years ago. I would think that it would take a bit more of an adjustment period for a reluctant or hesitant partner to warm to nudism with lots of nudist you don't know. I've said this many, many times before. Nudism starts at home. Once the reluctant/hesitant partner is comfortable with nudism, at home, then you venture to clothing optional venues. IF they are not comfortable in that environment, then you need to retreat and start again. It's just our opinion but clothing optional clubs and resorts were meant to be a place to adjust to nudism, not bring your textile lifestyle into the nudist lifestyle. Nudists already know how and when to wear clothes. It's time for the textiles to learn when and where to be naked at a nude venue. If they can't or won't, then please don't ruin another nudist venue for the rest of us.
My preference is nude whenever possible but am understanding of someone new to the lifestyle, if it is cold, and if someone has a bad sunburn. I dont even notice being nude anymore when nudity is required. It was only when I crossed paths with the UPS man who was fully clothed that I felt a little awkward. At a resort in Arizona, there were a couple guys at the pool drinking beer, fully clothed, with dark sunglasses on. The feeling was they were just perving on naked people. It was not right at all! So a rule that requires nudity at the pool is needed. Otherwise, we just have to be reasonable.
I agree with nudity.
My wife is Nude Tolerant. We frequent C/O hot springs. She like to see if there are other women her age and size before she will go completely nude there. She will go topless all the time but if they are younger Hard Bodies, she will not go nude.
When she accompanies me to my club, she will wear a sarong unless she is in the hot tub where nudity is required.
She doesnt mind being nude around people she thinks she will never see again but is worried that someone we know will see is.
I prefer nude required but like clothing optional so long as I can be nude and no one cares.
The number of places to enjoy social nudity are decreasing every day it seems at least in US why exclude people who aren't fully there yet.
I'm curious from where this idea originates. Is this statement based on some statistics or an assumption through what little press nudism receives? Albeit true that Desantis may be coming for the nudists soon, Florida has so many places for nudism it makes one's head spin with all the flesh showing! I read about another US city legalizing toplessness for woman in parks, and a new nude beach becoming legal a couple of years ago...what is this comment based upon? If there is a source that can be cited I'd enjoy knowing what it is.
As to the bigger question in this thread, we nudists are generally a very accepting, non-judgemental group as a rule, mostly due to being constantly judged and ridiculed by the world of cloth - pointed at with disdain by those who don't understand, will never understand, or refuse to look inwardly to confront their own prejudices concerning nudism and naturism. Our acceptance of the partially- or fully-clothed among the bare works just fine in many places. At the same time, I don't feel as though nudists need to hold back about our strong opinions concerning our desire to have the preference of equality that comes with a requirement for all involved to be fully nude. If a person needs time to acclimate, take it slow and take your curiosity to a CO spot. While some are going to stay dressed the whole time they are around naked people, that point will at times bring up the question of motivation for the visit. Pressing a non-nudist forward to disrobing with a lack of compassion will likely backfire on the pushy partner.
There are a million reasons why someone has a problem with social nudity, and many of them are absolutely valid. Don't get married to someone before you know and accept their tastes and preferences. I am partnered with a woman who hates bananas - that's no deal breaker for our relationship to work. If she didn't want to be naked all the time, we wouldn't be together. Nudists married to non-nudists make me sad for them both, but love is worth fighting for and worth giving up some of the things we hold close to heart.
love is worth fighting for and worth giving up some of the things we hold close to heart.
I got married long before I was interested in social nudism. My wife doesn't follow my interest in this. There are way too many good things about our marriage to let this difference create major problems.
Years ago I visited Lk. Como and it was optional. I visited as a single male and I was most comfortable at the pool where it was mandatory nude. I did find other areas where he seemed nude all the time. the tennis courts and volleyball. The only place I have visited recently within the last year was Camp David. It is mandatory nude there and I liked that rule much better. No questions as when and where to be dressed. Seemed much more comfortable.
On a side note I've come across the letter that was sent to LC members and residents:
Dear Residents and Resort Members:
At its regular meeting last Wednesday evening, The Lake Como Co-op Board of Directors passed the following motion: "The Board authorizes management to post all buildings, amenities, and events as nudity required. Conditions/weather permitting."
It is the intent of the Board to make Lake Como a nudist resort and community in fact, and not just in name. Lake Como is a place for nudists, not a place for people who want to look at nudists. Over the next month, the signage will be put in place and the Board will discuss how to implement this change. A motion will be brought forward at the Board's May 24th meeting to set the terms for enforcement of our nudity policy. All residents and members who wish to have input should attend and make their wishes known. If you wish to put your concerns in writing, please address them to our General Manager
Many of our residents and resort members are greatly concerned about the number of people at Lake Como that do not practice social nudism. Our residents and members are at Lake Como to live and practice the nudist lifestyle and want to be with other people who practice nudism. The Board intends to make that happen!
Art Green, President LCCI
It does look like there just too many "textile'd" people at LC.
On a side note I've come across the letter that was sent to LC members and residents:Dear Residents and Resort Members:At its regular meeting last Wednesday evening, The Lake Como Co-op Board of Directors passed the following motion: "The Board authorizes management to post all buildings, amenities, and events as nudity required. Conditions/weather permitting."It is the intent of the Board to make Lake Como a nudist resort and community in fact, and not just in name. Lake Como is a place for nudists, not a place for people who want to look at nudists. Over the next month, the signage will be put in place and the Board will discuss how to implement this change. A motion will be brought forward at the Board's May 24th meeting to set the terms for enforcement of our nudity policy. All residents and members who wish to have input should attend and make their wishes known. If you wish to put your concerns in writing, please address them to our General ManagerMany of our residents and resort members are greatly concerned about the number of people at Lake Como that do not practice social nudism. Our residents and members are at Lake Como to live and practice the nudist lifestyle and want to be with other people who practice nudism. The Board intends to make that happen!Art Green, President LCCIIt does look like there just too many "textile'd" people at LC.
Good for Como. It has become one of our favorite Florida resorts (along with Cypress Cove) and although I dont remember seeing large groups of textiles there when we have visited, we havent visited during their big events like the volleyball tournament. The biggest event we have attended is their 5K and that definitely attracted some textiles. We are going through something similar at Solair. I always thought we were a C/O camp, but new signs remind people going into the pool area and the beach, as well as the buildings in those areas that they are nude use only. We will see how they are enforced now that the weather is warming up.
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