My wife and I stay at a clothing optional nudist camp full time, and we have some that are always nude (like me) some that are nude sometimes, and some that I have never seen nude, I guess the good thing is that I am not a nudist for anyone but myself, sure it's nice to share the experience with others, however I don't need anyone else to be nude with me for me to be comfortable,
Well said. I couldn't have expressed it any better.
David
C/O is important if not mandatory if I will ever get my wife to join me. If she thought nude was required, she would not even consider it the first time.
Just curious.
People have mentioned the necessity for C/O for first-time visits. Well I not only agree, but I feel as well that all resorts should consider the "reluctant/anxious spouse" and make coverage an option for first time visitors. Even if it is limited to a sarong or a large towel.
Both my ex and my fiance started out reluctant; and it was due to the "C/O" option that they tried nudism in the first place. So it would by hypocritical of me to not support a C/O first visit.
This is just a question. At the C/O resort, there is no line drawn because someone can just choose to stay C/O. But what about the nude resort? Second visit, third visit? Where should the line be drawn to you?
Cant necessarily agree Andy. My wife has never been a home nudist. Still isnt but is comfortable at the nude beaches and resorts. In fact she was the leader in both cases for us to go. Yes, she knew that I was the nudist and she did it to appease me but she took the first step and is nude where comfortable. She does have her own set of rules about it for herself which is strange though.
We have visited several clubs and resorts and all have been C/O. I've seen people wearing way to many clothes for my taste at all of them. I understand having a time period for newbies to get acclimated or the weather factor for wearing something. I personally think I'd prefer some type of no clothing rule. At our home club there are a few long time members that rarely aren't wearing full wardrobe the entire season. I kind of do a head scratch about that.
I always prefer to be naked and like those around me to be naked too. But I think Club rules should be flexible so support Clothes Optional. There are nudists who are cold or have partners accompanying them who are not confident enough to get naked. I think it helps introduce someone to nudity if they can be amongst nudes but allowed to get naked in their own time. It gives time for them to become comfortable with the notion. Otherwise we just shut them out - no new nudists!
What perplexes me is the clubs and resorts which require clothing to be worn in the evening, and in restaurants/bars. They are nudist environments. Everyone (well almost everyone) has been naked during the day. They have seen each other naked all day. So what is there to be coy about? Having said that I'm happy to be the only nude at times - each to their own.
We are totally comfortable with 'Clothing Optional' as a classification of a venue be it a private club or a public beach. If we can be naked that is the main consideration and I don't think we have ever been to a CO location where there has been anything more than a very small minority that keep any clothes on.
We do agree that it is curious that some nudist venues expect people to dress in restaurants and bars.
A retreat center near us is clothing optional for residents, nudity-required for staff. They host a weekly public volleyball game, which is clothing optional most of the time, but once a month is nudity required, this latter intended to peel off those who are only present to Watch. (A nearby resort had begun directing its own clients there.) It's a nice compromise. And one elderly fellow who came dressed (with a volleyball-playing friend) once asked for, and was granted, an exception simply because getting undressed and re-dressed on a bench beside the volleyball court would have been too physically difficult.
Cant necessarily agree Andy. My wife has never been a home nudist. Still isnt but is comfortable at the nude beaches and resorts. In fact she was the leader in both cases for us to go. Yes, she knew that I was the nudist and she did it to appease me but she took the first step and is nude where comfortable. She does have her own set of rules about it for herself which is strange though.Well then, consider yourself among the lucky ones ... you and your wife are an exception to the rule or norm! ;-)
Andy, your are correct of course and it is the case for me unfortunately, that if someone does not enjoy home nudity even a little, the likelihood of social nudity is not likely. That said, knowing my wife and her background, she is very very reluctant for anything until she tries it. She was dead set against boating until I finagled our way into our first boat. Now she loves it and it was she who want to upgrade to our current boat.
Over the past few years as I have discovered naturism, practiced at home on occasion and described my experiences (very few) at resorts, she has gradually become less judgmental/worried. So unless we find ways to expose (pun intended) those who are not by nature curious or brave enough to try being nude in the presence of others, nudism will never be mainstream and will be limited to those personality types.
I continue to search for couples or friends that have taken this journey to correspond with my wife or even better to meet and share their story. Humans by nature are fearful of the unknown. Experiencing the simple nude experience in a very safe, non-threatening way is one first step to opening the door. Another would be if a friend she already knows and trusts turns out to be a nudist even if just on vacation. I could also envision a small gathering of genuine nudists at a pool party where everyone is relaxed and there is a comfortable mix of nude and textile per each persons comfort. My wife makes friends extremely fast is liked by everyone she meets so I would hope/predict the fact that some people are nude would quickly be pushed to the background.
This may all be very self-serving hopefulness on my part. All I know is I really enjoy the relaxation and liberation of simple nude time and wish I could share it often with my wife.
The distance factor is one very inconvenient factor it would seem in this lifestyle. Fireman Bills wife Donita had helped my wife with some issues in the beginning. They were over the other night as we all our getting ready for the cruise. It will be fun to see the girls together for a couple weeks. Given the opportunity I'm sure Mrs Rock would have no problem helping another lady out. She helped with my cousin when he was afraid to hot tub with us and my other girl cousin. Oddly enough he was the reluctant one and my girl cousin is all about taking her clothes off.