We are totally comfortable with 'Clothing Optional' as a classification of a venue be it a private club or a public beach. If we can be naked that is the main consideration and I don't think we have ever been to a CO location where there has been anything more than a very small minority that keep any clothes on.We do agree that it is curious that some nudist venues expect people to dress in restaurants and bars.
Agree on these points. At clothing optional places we tend to see a few who keep their clothes on but the majority are nude for at least some of their time there. As long as we can be naked thats our main consideration too, we're nudists who prefer life naked as and when we can be and are comfortable in clothing optional settings, others there may not be so enthusiastic about life this way. Nudists are usually very accepting of others, we hope our nudism is accepted similarly.
It does seem strange when we've spent the day surrounded by other nudists that we're asked to dress in restaurants and bars when its mostly the same people there, in a nudist environment. Even stranger is people we've seen nude earlier complaining if others are nude in the evening. Given the option of eating while nude at one place or having to 'cover up' at another the choice for our patronage is a no-brainer, we want to support the place that accepts nudists in a nudist setting!
I get the thinking behind clothing optional venues encouraging newcomers to nudism to try this way of life out gradually. I'm also inclined to think that non-nudists may take advantage to remain clothed among nudists. I don't support strict policing of nudity at all times but do appreciate times when everyone is nude at a nudist place, a completely nudist environment seems to make the world a good place to be.
We both prefer CO venues. Night time temps can get pretty cold, especially in high desert locations like ours. A 30-40F drop at night is not unusual. I've experienced this at De Anza Springs, resorts in Palm Springs and at Mira Vista.
CO venues do help newbies get accustomed to nudity. I know it helped my wife ease into social nudity. We always make an effort to say hi and chat with those who are willing to attend even CO. Helping newbies feel comfortable only helps grow our numbers.
And even I have to cover up at times due to excessive sun exposure. Sunscreen only goes so far.
Also, I believe that in some locations clothing is required in dining areas due to local health regulations.
We have never encountered clothed males lurking about. Resort management tends to weed them out very quickly.
The purpose of "Clothing Optional" is to transition to Nude.
People attending resorts aren't suppose to remain "Clothing Optional".
Question: How do you maximize nude participation?
Answer: By participating in nude activities, NOT clothing optional.My ex wife stopped going to Laguna del Sol because she felt wrong somehow, when others were dressed and she was nude.In my opinion, clubs should err on the side of nudists who want to be nude.
Steven Taylor, Laguna del Sol's GM, wrote a "Notice" letter regarding this very issue and addressed it, and others raised in this thread.
The letter was posted on 2 locations.
1. On a bulletin board right outside the co-ed showers a few yards from the RV hookups.
2. On a bulletin board right outside the co-ed showers by the outdoor main pools.
It was still there September of last year.
P.S.
If anyone(or a resident of Laguna del Sol) is going, could someone please take a picture
of that letter or write it down and post it here? Assuming, the letters are still up.
The details of that letter would make a good discussion.
I don't have a preference for myself, obviously it would be not allowed, when it comes to other people optional I think should be the norm. Why take away the persons right to choose their state of undress?
There was one instance when I was at a club that had indicated nudity was "expected"... One of the employees at the club finished her shift, remained fully clothes and hung outside the main club house for several hours. Her male friend/husband was walking around with clothes on as well. Over the course of a few days, I never saw the couple naked, but they spent a lot of free time at the nudist resort. They made me uncomfortable. Wearing clothes while on the job is one thing, but they seemed like voyeurs. I find it a lot more relaxing when everyone just hangs out naked...
The first time I went to a "resort" was a clothing optional resort, and I chose it specifically because my partner enjoyed tanning naked. I thought it would be the best of both worlds where he could get naked, and I could stay clothed. Eventually I also overcame my inhibitions and lay in the Sun naked, and it was an extremely difficult and uncomforatable thing for me to do.
My preference is still CO, for when I feel comfortable enough to get naked in front of strangers, and be clothed when I am not comfortable being naked in front of strangers, but also so my partner can be naked or not as he chooses to be.
Tiredriver, I myself am wanting to take my wife the next time I go to a resort. Believe it or not she has agreed to go....lol.... but if she gets uncomfortable being nude and can't put her clothes on....I'll always have to go alone from then on....a male going alone don't get into many , excuse me, ANY friendly conversations....just sayn
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