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clothing optional vs nude

Posted Feb 22, 2018

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MapJock
MapJockOriginal Poster
Feb 22, 2018

I'm especially frustrated with the fact that many people in a CO environment do just that. In your opinion what percentage of nude venues do you see that are CO vs NUDE. And for the CO venues, do the rest of you not get a bit aggravated that many take off one or two things instead of everything. My most recent experience- I recently went to Key West and was excited to go check out the "Garden of Eden" bar. Much to my disappointment there were about 10 naked folks there and about 60 dressed - laughing and giggling. Now besides the obvious - "hey you enjoy nudity so why does that bother you" , do the rest of you not get a little put out when more people are clothed than nude in a CO environment?

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  • MA
    MapJock
    MapJockOriginal Poster
    Feb 22, 2018

    Oh - and if this has already been discussed 1,000 times,my apologies. I have not read through all the posts here plus I'm pretty new to this site (not to going nude, just to the site) .

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  • MI
    minimalist75
    Feb 22, 2018

    Doesn't bother me, but it does Surprise me that even a few people will go to a relatively remote clothing optional beach and stay clothed. If it is a topless female or anyone in a g string I understand because they can't do that elsewhere. Also if it is a one nude one clothed couple. I am referring to a lone person or all clothed group that seems strange.

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  • OL
    ollygrumps
    Feb 22, 2018
    What's the problem? Is there anywhere that is 100% nude? CO offers flexibility. It also allows potential nudists to put a toe in the water before diving in.

    I'm happy as long as I'm somewhere that I can get naked. I'm often the only nude on a CO beach, or at least the first. I don't care who's looking as long (as they are not offended). Sometimes others follow my example, stripping off themselves. And someone in swimwear could well be a nudist or potential nudist. How many times does someone get dressed to leave the beach or in the evenings.
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  • AL
    Alfresco10
    Feb 23, 2018

    CO environments are usually designated as such and as long as I can assert my preference to be nude I am content. I have been on beaches where 80% are nude and that is great. I have been to beaches where locals think it is too cold and they are all bundled up but I am strolling nude (because I am a sturdy soul) and that is great too.

    I have some friends who give nude parties and nude is required. It is because they find that if one person stays clothed, then others start to get self conscious and put clothes on too. Which is sort of dumb, but typical. They have clothed parties too, it's not that they don't value their non-nudist friends.

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  • MA
    ma_jandc
    Feb 24, 2018
    [quote]I'm especially frustrated with the fact that many people in a CO environment do just that. In your opinion what percentage of nude venues do you see that are CO vs NUDE. And for the CO venues, do the rest of you not get a bit aggravated that many take off one or two things instead of everything. My most recent experience- I recently went to Key West and was excited to go check out the "Garden of Eden" bar. Much to my disappointment there were about 10 naked folks there and about 60 dressed - laughing and giggling. Now besides the obvious - "hey you enjoy nudity so why does that bother you" , do the rest of you not get a little put out when more people are clothed than nude in a CO environment?[/quote] Weve only been to the Garden of Eden bar once, and it was packed and just about everyone was nude. It was the day last years Bare Necessities nude cruise stopped in Key West, so everyone there was really a nudist and there wasnt enough room for any lookie lou's to wander up from the downstairs bars. There was a line waiting to get up to the roof and the second floor bar was mostly empty. But speaking of BN cruises, there are plenty that go around on the ship clothed, even a few up by the pool during sea days. Doesnt stop me from spending as much time as possible nude. On this months cruise we even minimized the times we went to the main dining room so we wouldnt have to get dressed to eat. If we were already dressed while in port we went to the MDR, otherwise we used the lido deck buffet and stayed nude (well, me nude and the Mrs. in a see-through pareo). On our first nude cruise in 2013, I spent less time nude when others were clothed, but not any more. I take full advantage of the C/O opportunity and dont care if Im the only one nude in whatever venue (it never gets that bad, but sometimes nude is the minority like in the ship's main theater or early in the evening in the dance club, before everyone starts getting undressed). It is more fun when everyone is nude, though.
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  • KW
    kw4267
    Feb 24, 2018

    A lot of times it's just too cold to get nude. Wife (notice the green haired lady?) and I were on the 2018 Big Boat and enjoyed as much naked time as possible but, inside the ship, temps were in the lower 70s, too cold for us with thinned Florida blood.

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    ma_jandc
    Feb 25, 2018
    [quote]A lot of times it's just too cold to get nude. Wife (notice the green haired lady?) and I were on the 2018 Big Boat and enjoyed as much naked time as possible but, inside the ship, temps were in the lower 70s, too cold for us with thinned Florida blood.[/quote] I do remember seeing your wife! One good thing about spending the winter in New England... the ship was still warmer than back home, so no need to get dressed even when we moved inside the ship for the evening. We did turn the heat up in our cabin, though.
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  • MA
    MapJock
    MapJockOriginal Poster
    Mar 17, 2018
    Guys - thanks for all the responses. So pretty much all of you are cool with Clothing Optional. I am too IF it seems to be equal or so clothed vs unclothed. It just seems to me aggravating when clothed people are there just to smile and giggle and gawk at everyone. Guess I'm just kinda sensitive and don't like being giggled at when the majority are clothed. Like at Garden of Eden . Its such a touristy place and I know these couples are all standing around laughing and can't wait to tell their friends when they get back home. Should that bother me? No I suppose it shouldn't but.. it is what it is - so it does bother me a little.
    I just wish there were more areas where it's nudity only not for nosey gawkers. And yes of course I understand there are certain situations that would outrule that - like Suffolk61 who said his girlfriend didn't go nude during her period. Well dang I would hope she wouldn't strip down all the way during her monthly cycle as most of us don't care to see blood trickling down her legs. LOL. You guys were bringing up exceptions .. what if it's too cold , or what if my GF is on her period, or when I go its 80% nude. So yeah there are circumstances where 100% nude is not going to be realistic. I'n referring to a normal warm typical nude kinda day and the majority are clothed . But yes Oilygrumps I concur that that would be a good time for the nervous types to assess the situation before stripping down - so yeah ...I get everything you folks said. I'm just referring to what seems to me most of the time rather than times that are the exception. Thank you for all your responses! Naked hugs!
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  • SU
    SunGroovers
    Mar 20, 2018

    A separate area should be designated for those who do not disrobe as this makes some who do feel uncomfortable and would encourage others to join in the freedoms of nudity.

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    minimalist75
    Mar 20, 2018
    [quote]A separate area should be designated for those who do not disrobe as this makes some who do feel uncomfortable and would encourage others to join in the freedoms of nudity.[/quote] How would you handle a couple where one is comfortable being nude and the other is not?
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    a_mad_man
    Mar 20, 2018

    If I was the only one nude it wouldn't bother me if the other people didn't strip off as long as I can be nude I will be happy.

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  • ME
    Member
    Mar 21, 2018
    [quote]A separate area should be designated for those who do not disrobe as this makes some who do feel uncomfortable and would encourage others to join in the freedoms of nudity.[/quote] [quote]How would you handle a couple where one is comfortable being nude and the other is not?[/quote] Exactly what I was about to ask. That would exclude us for a start
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  • SM
    smoothbear
    Jun 3, 2018

    My wife and I prefer (by far) the nude-only places. We feel much more comfortable when nobody wears any clothes.

    Unfortunately most beches are CO.

    On the other hand, its good if its CO if one of the two is not in the mood to undress.

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  • MI
    minimalist75
    Jul 17, 2018
    [quote]What's the problem? Is there anywhere that is 100% nude? CO offers flexibility. It also allows potential nudists to put a toe in the water before diving in.I'm happy as long as I'm somewhere that I can get naked. I'm often the only nude on a CO beach, or at least the first. I don't care who's looking as long (as they are not offended). Sometimes others follow my example, stripping off themselves. And someone in swimwear could well be a nudist or potential nudist. How many times does someone get dressed to leave the beach or in the evenings. Good points, it is a way for others contemplating to see if there up to it.[/quote] I have heard that some clothing optional resorts are nudity mandatory for the pool and surrounding deck.
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    ma_jandc
    Jul 17, 2018
    [quote]What's the problem? Is there anywhere that is 100% nude? CO offers flexibility. It also allows potential nudists to put a toe in the water before diving in.I'm happy as long as I'm somewhere that I can get naked. I'm often the only nude on a CO beach, or at least the first. I don't care who's looking as long (as they are not offended). Sometimes others follow my example, stripping off themselves. And someone in swimwear could well be a nudist or potential nudist. How many times does someone get dressed to leave the beach or in the evenings.Good points, it is a way for others contemplating to see if there up to it. I have heard that some clothing optional resorts are nudity mandatory for the pool and surrounding deck.[/quote] We've been to 6-8 different C/O resorts and all of them ban clothing in the pool and on the pool deck. I'm pretty sure all resorts will require nudity there.
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  • NA
    naturistsoaker
    Jul 18, 2018

    For me, option means optional. Likewise, nude-only means nude-only. Just as I don't want the need for clothes imposed on me, neither do I expect to impose nudity on others - that is, unless nudity is mandatory (frequently the case in the use of pools, hot tubs, some resorts, etc.). I have often been to public locations such as beaches and natural hot springs where I was the only naked one there. Likewise, I have hiked many times where I pass clothed hikers. That's all fine with me as long as I am accepted just like anyone else.

    It was said by several that any time or place a nudist can be nude and accepted as such is a good thing - I agree. Part of tolerating each other's preferences is to accept textile-dependent people as much as we want them to accept textile-free people. There is, I think, a parallel with the topfree movement. Can't we just all get along?

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  • MA
    Dec 5, 2019

    We have visited many CO resorts and were surprised how many people are only nude in the pool and surrounding deck and clothed everywhere else. One evening we went to the dance in the main building and were the only nude couple there.

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  • OL
    ollygrumps
    Dec 6, 2019

    I've been to many nude-tolerant beaches in southern Europe. I'm happy that they accept my nudity even if most of them are clothes or in swimwear. I have particular fun at Christmas. I put on a Santa hat (already having a white beard) and flip flops. I truly enjoy all the textiles photographing this naked Santa.

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  • ME
    Member
    Dec 8, 2019
    [quote]....I have some friends who give nude parties and nude is required. It is because they find that if one person stays clothed, then others start to get self conscious and put clothes on too. Which is sort of dumb, but typical. They have clothed parties too, it's not that they don't value their non-nudist friends.[/quote] We have friends who hold parties where all are expected to be nude, it works well as those who might be less confident in a CO setting seem comfortable if everyone is nude. Guests are shown where they can leave their clothes on arrival before they move into the main party rooms so there is nobody there in any clothing. Some may not like rules but if you know its all-nude before you go you can't quibble really. Its never really an issue because its only nudists who get invited to them. Other parties might be CO and then we all know that we can be as we please, so those of us who are nude whenever possible are free to be as we want while those less committed to a nudist lifestyle can stay wrapped up, everyone gets on just fine too. We do go to textile parties, they can be good too, but not as good as nude ones.
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  • ME
    Member
    Dec 8, 2019

    For me, no matter, I am going to be nude, but I think I understand what you and others are saying, i.e. both sides of the coin. Every resort I have ever been to (about 6), the pool and area are nude mandatory - which makes sense. I "slid" into social nudity at a "CO area (not a resort)" and of course took to it immediately - after years of being a home nudist. Thinking back (if I can recall that far!), it was nice to be somewhere to start at my own speed (which turned out to be full speed ahead, but I didn't know that). Also, at year round resorts in colder climates, you definitely see people in all sorts of dress - I know have certainly been glad to have my warming robe on darting between places in the snow! But, again, once you arrive at the pool it is nude mandatory. I have been to nude mandatory resorts and as I started out in the first line - I am going to be nude anyway regardless of CO or mandatory. Each his own I guess and I support both types of venues.

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  • MI
    minimalist75
    Dec 8, 2019

    The beach I frequently go to is clothing optional, but the majority are nude and many of the rest are either in g-strings, topless women or in a mixed group of clothed and nude. Very few clothed singles or all clothed groups. Perhaps because it takes a long drive followed by a long walk to get there.
    I did visit a resort that was nude mandatory in the pool but clothing optional elsewhere. Most were nude everywhere during mid day but as dinner time approached, more people were clothed even though it was still warm enough to be nude.

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  • AL
    Alfresco10
    Dec 8, 2019

    Public places like beaches that I visit are always CO, which I think is the best option. Groups that have members who don't want to be nude can still enjoy their companions who do. Works quite well.

    My experience with resorts is more an expectation that people will be nude but I do occasionally see clothed people.

    I have some nudist friends who host nude parties where nobody wears clothes, the guidelines are clear. They found that once somebody puts clothes on then the more timid nudes will dress, then everyone does. They also host wonderful parties when everyone is dressed. Nice to have clear direction both ways.

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  • HO
    homeclothesfree
    Dec 8, 2019

    Public spaces should always be CO optional because they are public and if they are supported by public dollars it is impractical and not very pragmatic to demand they be clothing free. That would be no different than the situation all genuine naturist work to change which is forcing all beaches to be textile only.
    Never quite understood why some feel the best way to get mainstream to adopt our perspective and allow freedom to go without clothes is to adopt restrictions that dont allow people to be free to keep clothes on. Seems counter intuitive. If I am fighting for the freedom to be clothes free at a public beach or anywhere else why would I be worried about gawkers?

    If w are talking about a private space that is a totally different issue. I think a naturist resort or camp can demand people be clothes free if that is their policy. That is the practice at Bare Oaks for instance. My home base resort Turtle Lake is clothing optional and does quite well.

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  • SI
    silversurfer
    Dec 8, 2019
    [quote]What's the problem? Is there anywhere that is 100% nude? CO offers flexibility. It also allows potential nudists to put a toe in the water before diving in.I'm happy as long as I'm somewhere that I can get naked. I'm often the only nude on a CO beach, or at least the first. I don't care who's looking as long (as they are not offended). Sometimes others follow my example, stripping off themselves. And someone in swimwear could well be a nudist or potential nudist. How many times does someone get dressed to leave the beach or in the evenings.Good points, it is a way for others contemplating to see if there up to it.I have heard that some clothing optional resorts are nudity mandatory for the pool and surrounding deck.[/quote]

    I know that at Cypress Cove you can be clothed but have to be nude to use the pools or hot tubs. For me it doesn't bother me that some are clothed. Some don't want so much sun on their skin. The last time I went there it was a little cool and so I Donald Ducked it at times as did a lot of guys. But if I can be fully nude I am.
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