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John aka cobeachbum
Just returned from my 3rd trip down there this year. The first day felt a little like this site; there seemed to be a large contingent of older men nudists, me included. However, by the second day, it was more what I am accustomed to there--a good mix of young and old, and men and women. It has been quite rainy down there, and at least one night, I wished for an extra blanket. On the opposite end, the upper Top Pond clocked in at 109 degrees. That is unusually hot for the Top Ponds. Probably has something to do with the low snowpack they had down there this winter. Also, they deepened the Waterfall Pond. It is a much nicer depth, but it will take a while for the silt to clear out. Finally, I have a couple of photos of me in the most recent newsletter associated with Naked Gardening Day at the Everson Ranch.
On the opposite end, the upper Top Pond clocked in at 109 degrees. That is unusually hot for the Top Ponds. Probably has something to do with the low snowpack they had down there this winter.
The top ponds have been running rather toasty this summer. The lower one is the only one I could stand for any length of time.
Come October, I think all the COVID changes will be gone (The Oak House bunks upstairs become available again 1 Oct). I suspect the reduced quotas (Mostly gone already - I think they're at 75% of normal now) will be completely gone by next summer if not sooner.
John aka cobeachbum
Come October, I think all the COVID changes will be gone (The Oak House bunks upstairs become available again 1 Oct). I suspect the reduced quotas (Mostly gone already - I think they're at 75% of normal now) will be completely gone by next summer if not sooner.
It feels like the limits are already gone, but I guess it is still hard to get in on a day pass without reserving well in advance. The RV sites are close to 100% booked most of the time.
When I was there towards the end of July, the quota was 75% of normal. It still seemed like a lot less people than usual (which was kinda nice). I would say the RV spots were about 75%. All four of the Oak House rooms were taken most nights (I was in one of them), and it appeared all the cabins were in use. The Spruce house was in use at least some nights, but can't say if both rooms were being used. It appeared it was the tent camping that was mostly under-utilized.
John aka cobeachbum
Awesome place. I went there in August 2022. I was a little disappointed by the amount of clothed people. Most were nude in the hot springs, but dressed everywhere else. I hiked to the bat cave nude and was the only nude person on the trail that evening. The coed bathrooms were kinda cool and unique too.
I was a little disappointed by the amount of clothed people. Most were nude in the hot springs, but dressed everywhere else.
It is so variable. Early and late season seems to have more nudist; in the summer month, more just skinny dippers and textiles. However, that doesn't always hold true. The same goes for the male-to-female ratio. I've seen men with the clear advantage, but other times women outnumber men. Young-old same thing. It's all good, and I've always have had a good time there and met great people. For me, the bottom line is that I can be naked where ever I want, hike naked, and if anyone has a problem with that, it's their problem. You can't go to Valley View and not expect to see naked people. I actually saw a review on a travel website where someone was complaining about the number of naked people - "It might as well be a nudist colony." Not sure what they thought clothing optional meant.
Awesome place. I went there in August 2022. I was a little disappointed by the amount of clothed people. Most were nude in the hot springs, but dressed everywhere else. I hiked to the bat cave nude and was the only nude person on the trail that evening. The coed bathrooms were kinda cool and unique too.
I used to go to VVHS with a girl that was like that. She had no issues with the nudity, no issues being nude, and absolutely loved going to VVHS, regardless of season, but would rarely move from one venue to the next without getting dressed even when it was blazing hot outside. Sometimes just a wrap, but sometimes much more. The funny thing was when we would go for hike (To the bat cave, or just exploring the endless opportunities) there (or at Mountain Air Ranch, which we would get invited to by a member friend), she would be completely naked. She was also the one that would get the old wood burning sauna so hot, she would run everyone else out of it (eventually, even me) - she was Russian.
John aka cobeachbum
I was a little disappointed by the amount of clothed people. Most were nude in the hot springs, but dressed everywhere else.It is so variable. Early and late season seems to have more nudist; in the summer month, more just skinny dippers and textiles. However, that doesn't always hold true. The same goes for the male-to-female ratio. I've seen men with the clear advantage, but other times women outnumber men. Young-old same thing. It's all good, and I've always have had a good time there and met great people. For me, the bottom line is that I can be naked where ever I want, hike naked, and if anyone has a problem with that, it's their problem. You can't go to Valley View and not expect to see naked people. I actually saw a review on a travel website where someone was complaining about the number of naked people - "It might as well be a nudist colony." Not sure what they thought clothing optional meant.
I concur with this. I've been going to VVHS for 24 years, and it's different every time. Sometimes it's a very young hip crowd, sometimes it looks like an AARP convention. Sometimes it's very quite, sometimes there's a major jam session going on either in the pavilion or (in the old days) the Oak House. Different vibe just about every time. With or without clothes is often a matter of relative temperature and wind. I think you see a lot more of the walking around clothed now (especially from pond to pond) since fires were banned. In the old days, on chilly nights (and days) there would be a fire in the pit at the Party Pool (Soaking Pond for you newbies), which was the main hangout before the Apple Pond drew people away for the hotter water. Made getting out into the chilly air much easier.
It also used to be a fairly stable group (Members). Everyone knew everyone, and was much more comfortable around each other. A lot of the old crowd is gone (for various reasons) and you don't see the same people from visit to visit.
John aka cobeachbum
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