... the owners have permitted it to become a soft-porn site that happens to have nudist/naturist members simply because there aren't many online options. I haven't been around much the last couple of years and this thread is pretty indicative of why not. I regularly visit naturist clubs, beaches and swims and have done so in three countries so far and my real-life experiences are all positive ones meeting interesting people and chatting about interesting things. This place can just get creepy with the focus on genitalia and sex. In the real world NO ONE will walk up to you and say "great tits" so why the hell do some consider it appropriate here? I am not ashamed of being a naturist but I removed the few fully nude photos I had because I was tired of deleting the sexual comments that were left.
Just be nice to people and behave exactly the same way you would if your mother was doing the introductions. Everyone knows I'm a naturist. It's not a dirty little secret and I welcome questions from friends and acquaintances. But do you know what? When they ask me where to get more information I have never, not once, directed anyone to this site. There is a reason AANR revoked True Nudists' membership.
I'll go back to my corner now.
... the owners have permitted it to become a soft-porn site that happens to have nudist/naturist members simply because there aren't many online options. I haven't been around much the last couple of years and this thread is pretty indicative of why not. I regularly visit naturist clubs, beaches and swims and have done so in three countries so far and my real-life experiences are all positive ones meeting interesting people and chatting about interesting things. This place can just get creepy with the focus on genitalia and sex. In the real world NO ONE will walk up to you and say "great tits" so why the hell do some consider it appropriate here? I am not ashamed of being a naturist but I removed the few fully nude photos I had because I was tired of deleting the sexual comments that were left. There is a reason AANR revoked True Nudists' membership.I'll go back to my corner now.
Dont go back to your corner stay in the mix otherwise THEY win. I didnt even realize the site had AANR membership. Great info. You are correct about the real world vs online sites like this. It is the only place they can get away with that behavior. Betting most of them have never participated in a genuine social nudism or naturist event for that reason.
For me, name calling is like telling someone who was sexually abused, they must have been asking for it.You disgust me! A total disregard for the feelings of others,!
I call the men who post garbage on here morons and this is what you equate it with?
Seriously?
The BBC used to run a fascinating science show on TV here called Horizon. Each week it would examine different aspects of science. I remember one on intelligence. Animal and human. In one section of the show, it gave a random selection of people an IQ test.
An IQ test is a series of question to gage a persons intelligence, its been around for decades and millions have taken the test. The number of points you score determines your level of intelligence the average is 100 points. Score well above average and youre a genius, well below, a moron.
One lady ( 40s) was given her score as 80. She was quite upset by this and thought it rather unfair on her. Instead of going off and reading a book or two, she asked the testers of they couldnt make the average lower so she could become more intelligent.
Like I said earlier, morons dont know they are morons. And yes there is a test for it.
Lee I dont care if the OP doesnt want to post a face picture, Im not on the site to see pictures. But if anyone on a naturist site posts a dick pic and thinks that makes them a naturist. I doubt they would do well on the test. I stand by my words.
The OPs opening statement references another topic which we both posted on.
His closing statement asks that we live and let live and treat others with the respect we would like to be shown.
I agree with that profoundly.
But he doesnt say how we should treat the morons who dont respect us.... thats my point.
You know in other parts of the world, when someone shouts Fake News, it generally taken to mean the news is correct and the person shouting it is trying to divert attention from his own failings.
There is this one guy who keeps repeating it a lot.
Ps... Ive never called Lee a moron.... Id like to make that clear.
And the excuses (I have too much to lose by showing my face, so let me show you my penis instead) are just ridiculous. As a man, I have spent my share of time in locker rooms and heard my share of locker room talk. Still, I find it very creepy when someone compliments me (quote, unquote) in a nudist setting. For women, as one of the recent posters here has pointed out, it is not just creepy, but downright hostile. That kind of behavior isolates us, makes us wary of newcomers, and eventually drives us away.Bottom line: when nudists push back against the sex and body part talk, we are just trying to keep others from littering on our part of the online beach. Sure, we dont own the site and we cant actually prevent anyone from behaving badly. Maybe the whole idea of a nudist website is misconceived. But when we do object, it is with reason and our views are also entitled to respect.
Another well reasoned and articulated post sadly dont expect the free for all proponents to address any of the points made because they are only interested in their perspective and agenda. But thank you for being so clear and thoughtful in expressing a genuine authentic naturist perspective..
By the way homeclothesfree, good choice on the surfer pic dude! Talk about HOT! Makes me want to take up surfing! I had to look at it twice, I think she could excite a eunuch! Does that make me a perv? :-)
FreeLee nice try not gonna bite give a shout when you want to have a cogent reasoned conversation/debate about the subject at hand.
In real life, there are people who are comfortable with social nudity. There are lurkers and trolls. And there are very large numbers of people who think about social nudity and just aren't there yet. Imagine a few perfectly nice folks sitting around talking about the possibility of social nudity. Their nervous jokes, their body concerns, their misunderstandings. In real life, a few of those people will eventually work through enough of that to appear as newbies at a social venue. As poster after poster who has actually done that has said, the nudity is astonishingly uncomplicated after the first few minutes. Once they're there, they'll start to pick up moves and mannerisms, reflecting the body language of the people around them, adjust and fit in. That might be a slow process, as fitting in to any social group can be.
But this is the internet. Here, all those folks who aren't there yet, are with us. At a social venue, we encounter a minority of newbies, and even then only those who have taken the important and sometimes difficult step of showing up. Online, we share space with the large number of perfectly nice folks who haven't yet done that, and who bring their concerns and misunderstandings with them. Online, we are not a definite, smallish group of also-naked people, sitting alone or interacting in small and shifting groups. Stepping into this space is a very different experience. Safer, because we are really just sitting at our desks, and that's why there are so many of us; scarier, because this is not an in-the-moment experience with a group of people, it's an on-the-record experience visible to the entire world. Here, there is no body language. No smiles. There's just text and photos.
The site simply can't be an online version of a beach or resort. It can't have the same mix of people. The interactions can't be the same. More tolerance is definitely required; there will be more variety of behavior. The offsetting advantage is that we are safer, sitting at our desks.
(If there's one behavior to focus on, it's the level of sexual pic comments and chat approaches - that gets personal and rises to the level of harassment for some people. An option to restrict photo comments to friends would help.)
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