Barred for being shirtless
Have you ever been shirtless not allowed to enter a place, asked to leave, or told to put a shirt on.
I have had these experiences at convenience stores, Home Depot, an amusement park when I strayed past the shirts required sign at the boundary of the water attractions and at my old gym when I took my shirt off on the way to the locker room.
On the other had, once at a combined farm market and nursery, one of the employees saw me putting a shirt on in the parking lot on a hot day and said I didn't need to so I left it off. Similarly, on another hot day I put my shirt on when walking from the car to the door, and the cashier must have seen me do it because she said I didn't need a shirt to enter.
This reminds of the old saying that "When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Such as that we have to create an atmosphere for ourselves to be in and go to places where we are we know we shall be accepted. By being on TN it seems that we can do this, yet there are many that want to undermine our intentions.
I generally wait to put a shirt on when I get to a place that requires it and take it off as soon as I am out the door.
Once one of my band colleagues saw me taking my shirt off on the way to the car as I usually do and he said in a good natured way "Sometimes I think you would like to just live nude". I changed the subject by mentioning that someone else in the band wears t-shirts promoting the nudist lifestlye.
I think that there may be local ordinances that dictate minimum clothing. I've seen a lot of "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" signs" mainly to restaurants, so I think it might be a health code thing.In other areas, it's totally up to the proprietors. They can enforce any dress code they want in their establishments. Back in the day, a guy could be refused service in a restaurant if they didn't have a tie.Now, people are being refused admittance to a store or restaurant if they don't have a face mask. Even in areas where there is no law in effect, the courts have ruled that the establishments are within their rights to demand the use of a mask.
I see signs that say it is state law in NJ, but this is not true. Shirtless men are often permitted in shops at in shore towns, including convenience stores and fast food restaurants.
My locat 7-11 permitted shirtless male customers at one time, but put up signs prohibiting it a few years ago. When I asked the manager about the change, he said too many of the shirtless men were also drunk! Sounds strange to me, but it is within walking distance of a mid-sized college.
Speaking of which, the one group of young men who are routinely shirtless are runners from the two colleges near me. At one of them, the mens cross country team decided to go the final step and held a nude practice on campus. They all got suspended for a week and had to forfeit a match. Strange this was this was the same semester that the Performing Arts Department stage The Full Monty so I guess context matters.
I've been told by a floorwalker in our local (Hawaii) Wal-Mart that they would "prefer" that I wear a shirt, but they did not kick me out. I have, however, respected that preference ever since.
Hawaii seemed to have a pretty laid back attitude about most things when I was there. In general, most any store (especially quickie mart type places) anywhere near a beach are usually not concerned with shirts (or shoes).
John aka cobeachbum
Well, there are rules, and they're mostly followed, even in Hawaii. Shoes are required no where, at least by law. That's mostly an insurance thing, if you see a no-shoes rule. Shirts are required in settings where people are sitting down to eat indoors - which includes stores with delis and a few tables, but does not include walk-up places or patio dining. Otherwise, shirt rules are about some variety of decorum.
Pants, sadly, are required everywhere, although Little Beach on Maui is protected by a court order on the grounds that nobody goes there who'd be offended, partly because it's an established nudist beach. Kehena on Hawaii Island is c/o by agreement with the local police, on the condition that it not get sexual and that people stop dealing drugs down there. Anyplace else, it's a little edgy.
Here in NY "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" signs"were everywhere and one could not enter any business with out them. But now those signs have been covered with " Mask required signs". But we still have to wear shirts and shoes. No mention of pants or shorts LOL
Have you tried skipping the pants or shorts.
Someone posted a picture standing next to a sign on a golf course saying collared shirts and golf shoes required. He was wearing that, and nothing else! I doubt if they let him play.
I cant think of a time I was banned for being shirtless. But while on a birthday trip to New Orleans, I had picked out a place on a friend's recommendation for my birthday meal. I had bought a tie-dyed t-shirt the day before and was wearing it around town on a 90 deg day. When I went to the Court of Two Sisters for a sumptuous breakfast buffet I was told " gentlemen must have sleeves to dine here" I left and went to a place that did not care that my upper arms were showing. Saved myself some money too.