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I said I knew of no one who died solely of Covid, I didn't say no one did. There is a big difference.

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I'm not interested in turning this into a debate about car seats. My point is about people trying to understand scientific information, and I think you actually made my point for me. You posted only one reference, to a non-scientific article by non-scientists, That doesn't make it automatically wrong, but it has a high hill to climb. Consider this rebuttal: https://thecarseatlady.com/freakonomics-fallacy-an-economist-or-a-pediatrician-who-would-you-trust-to-keep-your-child-safe/. Also not a scientific paper. Opinions are one thing, have yours and base it on whatever you want, base it on the one chapter of Dianetics you read while you were high in college. I don't care. If you want to go beyond opinion, though, do a *lot* of homework.

Sorry if this comes across as combative. I'm not a combative person, and I'm not going to continue any "argument" or even start a debate here. I've presented my point of view and that's all I want to do publicly.

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I couldn't agree more.

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I am sad that this discussion is occurring on this site and in this modern age and especially amongst nudists who are generally more understanding than most. Smallpox has been officially eradicated. Diphtheria, Polio, tuberculosis, typhoid and a number of other serious infectious diseases are now either totally eradicated or limited to poorer third world countries.
I have trusted vaccinations for my entire life and have avoided some of the above diseases as a result. I personally know of people who contracted them and are suffering the consequences many decades later, or worse, died.
The media, especially Fox Entertainment has been gleefully spreading false information. I think you will find that 99% of the medical profession have been speaking with one voice. I have seen cases where Fox have deliberately edited reports from Fauci. So please, follow the science, not the media.

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Our government has caused it*s own dilemma by the use of facts & statistics; the problem is that the government constructed the data needed, devised the sampling / gathering plan, collected the data and analyzed it in the end. There is N O outside validation of their methodology nor derived results. Im on two government *no call* lists;

Im, you can get the exact same data, results, etc directly from the source, you hospital. Why do you think Johns Hopkins was one of many places collecting data and publishing it. Johns Hopkins was cited so often because of their reputation in ding thus stuff right. But there have been many other places doing it as well and coming up with very similar numbers and statistics. The government wasnt involved in constructing any data, sampling etc. They adopted what experts, hospitals, places like Johns Hopkins do and recommend. My dad was a statistician during his career before he retired and later passed away. His job and that of his team was putting statistics together based on actual usage and other factors to help legislators and governors with public policy and budgets related to health. There were times where he was asked to put information together by a governor or legislature as they were proposing some changes to laws on public health policy and the results of his work would shoot down the ideas of the people requesting it.

Your note about the call list is ridiculous. Yes, the call lists exist, and yes, we still get the calls. But legally they do not exclude polls and another type of call I cant think of right now. But the bigger problem is a major technical problem that phone companies are trying to work out on a world wide basis and that is spoofing. Most of the garbage calls today are from spoofed numbers where if you call the number back its either invalid or someones phone number that has no idea what you are talking about. One way this happens is someone in a place like India uses VOIP to place a call digitally via the Internet to a number in another country or at the very least handled by another phone company. When the call request comes in to the recipients phone company they have no way of validating the phone number being sent to them for the original caller, they have to just take it. A no call list is not going to take care if people using a flaw in worldwide telecommunications structure.

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Our government has caused it*s own dilemma by the use of facts & statistics; the problem is that the government constructed the data needed, devised the sampling / gathering plan, collected the data and analyzed it in the end. There is N O outside validation of their methodology nor derived results. Im on two government *no call* lists; I receive multiple junk calls per day. On the above note on child safety seats, the Superfreakanomics authors did their own research and concluded they didnt help after age 2. Here it is *Levitt and Dubner commissioned their own crash test and found that for children 3 and 6 years old, seat belts work just as well as car seats.* They point out the government did not use an apples to apples comparison. Just look at our recent *withdrawal*; do you want those guys & gals organizing your next company dinner party? You could kiss that promotion good bye. We must proceed with great caution as our leaders are far too interested in their polling numbers and less so about actual results.

prove it

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I'm with you 100%. These people against mask mandates on public transportation (and anywhere else a company chooses to implement one) must really despise their fellow humans.

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I gully agree with you Free lee

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Huge thumbs up Lee, I agree with you 100%

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They are. They also believe in historical compiled information to base thier decisions on. This current inoculate does not have a history of information compiled as approved medicines require before approval.
The best method should be to make all l the information available. Then have discussions based on concerns.

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