Does the military fight and die for all rights, or just those rights you agree with?I would then have to ask you if you think that American Military Service members would allow the flag of their nation to be disrespected? The same flag that symbolizes what Americans fought and died for?As far as I know, we still have the right to protest, including, according to The Supreme Court, the right to burn flags.That's one of the rights for which people fought and died.To add, because you are exactly right:There are innumerable speeches, videos and testimonials from veterans of each war since the close of WWII who are clear about the fact that regardless of their personal feelings about flags and how they are trained to care for them and respect them while on duty, they did not go to war to defend blind allegiance to symbols, inflexible views on liberty or only the things we approve of or like, but rather the right to question and yes, even mock those symbols, freedom understood as the widest range of the acceptable and possible each citizen has as birthright and by necessity those things that we might find odious, or unacceptable yet that are not destructive or damaging to other's life, liberty or pursuit of happiness (note you are not guaranteed happiness rather the opportunity to find it, if you can, and the bottom line is that no action by your political rival or those you imagine are against you with flags cakes masks bibles, etc stops you or I from pursuing happiness, especially if we walk on by.And a note to those who hold up service and those who serve and say "we should be like them and do x and not y". Service is by definition to the citizens of the country and is a sacrifice always because you accept less freedom, more responsibility and more danger,up to giving your life so that your fellow citizens don't have to. The last thing that anyone who is not in service and is not enlisting should do is limit themselves out of some sense of misguided admiration or adulation of the limited freedoms in life of one who has chosen service. To give up any of your liberties or suggest others should do so while still being a citizen of the nation is to throw away their sacrifice to KEEP you free by limiting your freedoms or those of others in their name... and that is exactly wrong. Have every respect for these men and women. Keep sacred their choice and honour their memories but remember why they fight. Not for your idea of freedom or his, or hers, not liberal or conservative, not Black nor white nor Jew or Gentile, but for all of us. Each of us equal, one nation of out of many, indivisible...right?
You are partly right but you are not taking into account many facts. You neglect to mention the fact that the majority of americans want to the liberty to not burn flags and strongly object to the burning of flags. This really has not been a major issue because there have been only 44 instances of flag burning. There is too much pressure NOT to burn flags. You talk about respect for men and women but you neglect to mention that respect can also mean to not burn or desecrate flags. We do not need a law (and it is impossible to create a law) to govern each and every aspect of human activity. At some point, people need to know the difference between right and wrong and follow through. with freedom comes responsibility and that responsibility involves respecting the sacrifices of those who serve their country and what they believe in. The direction of the military changes with those in power and can change at any time. When people abuse freedom, then laws are created to stop it. It all boils down to what the majority of people want and we are now living in a time when a certain group of people want to destroy each and every institution that exists in America and discourage others from standing up and speaking out.
The terms of service for this site make it clear that the owners/operators are free to removed any content -- and they do not have to explain why.The issue that was addressed here is for someone to remove flags.
I would ask you to ask any service person in your area if they would agree with fighting to have someone destroy our flag. Forget rights for a minute. Remember only what is the right thing to do.
This is just another way of saying, that you only support those rights you agree with that are being exercised by people you agree with.
I support the same rights for everyone whether I agree with or like the people who are exercising those rights.
What you're saying is, only people who agree with you should have rights and they should only be able to exercise those rights the way you would exercise them. This is exactly what all of those military people fought against.
But none of this is really relevant because this site is not the government. The Bill of Rights protects citizens from the government, not each other.
The terms of service for this site make it clear that the owners/operators are free to removed any content -- and they do not have to explain why.The issue that was addressed here is for someone to remove flags.I would ask you to ask any service person in your area if they would agree with fighting to have someone destroy our flag. Forget rights for a minute. Remember only what is the right thing to do.This is just another way of saying, that you only support those rights you agree with that are being exercised by people you agree with.I support the same rights for everyone whether I agree with or like the people who are exercising those rights.What you're saying is, only people who agree with you should have rights and they should only be able to exercise those rights the way you would exercise them. This is exactly what all of those military people fought against.But none of this is really relevant because this site is not the government. The Bill of Rights protects citizens from the government, not each other.
You seem to be the one who is arguing rights and freedoms and ignoring common sense. If you had the right to murder someone, would you go out and do it and then scream that you have the right?
I am not saying that only people who agree with me should have rights. I am not saying that the only way to exercise those rights is as I am. You are putting words in my mouth and trying to deny my ability to object and your tone is not appreciated. I have just as much a right to object as you have a right to your position. If enough people object, then the laws will change and stop clear abuses.
You are right that none of this is really relevant. If you come here and burn a flag you will either be arrested or get a summons ticket. This is from a local politician who knows the public outrage over flag burning here. You may scream constitutional rights all you want but the fact is that there is a law against open burning among other laws that will punish you for doing so. As the politician said, there are many ways to skin a cat. Also in the military (and I assume that you never served based upon your replies) you can quote military philosophy all that you want but the overwhelming majority of those I know who served including myself do not support flag burning. It is our right too to say no to flag burning. We have earned the right to express our opinions, and work to change laws just as you do. Whoever screams the loudest wins. As I have said there are many different ways to stop it and only the end result matters. Try burning a flag here and you will have a whole bunch of different laws thrown at you as well as an angry public who would never agree with your 'right'. Society has rules and regulations and opinions that also form a check and balance against what most consider to be abuses. Don't believe it..then come here burn a flag in the military cemetery or anywhere in town and see what happens.
The terms of service for this site make it clear that the owners/operators are free to removed any content -- and they do not have to explain why.
Did you read what I had posted above?
Did both you and nudistpig ever serve in the military?
Are both you and nudistpig attorneys who know all of the laws and how society functions?
Note: Funny how our resident experts answer no questions. This is how trolls operate. They come to stir up problems and then they vanish.
Back to the topic at hand:
How do the computer experts here explain the following facts:
1) Several of us had our avatars removed several times. Yet others who had the exact same avatar did not. The only way for this to occur is if some do not have their photos reviewed by the computer code whereas others do. Who gets this 'free pass' here where they were put on the exempt from scanning list? Why was my avatar changed to a different one that was not second in line. Does the computer code just randomly select any photo that it wishes even though all of the photos are generated from the same source. Flat image does not apply here.
2) Several topics were entirely removed by something other then the original poster. There was nothing offensive posted to 'flag' the computer code into action. Does the computer just randomly select topics and delete them?
3) Why has the deletion of the avatars suddenly stopped? Has the code suddenly been changed to allow this? Is there no moderation or human interaction here?
Certainly images can be erased by code glitches or mistake but the history of events here show something very suspicious here. Excusing away human involvement and interaction is nothing more then an excuse to avoid holding anyone accountable here. Human involvement is certainly the chief suspect here.
thankfully most of us are not restricted by limited understandingas a previous post implied
Yes some of us are driven by a common sense and a belief in what society overall considers right and wrong. Certainly all people have freedom to an extent but when those freedoms are abused, then restrictions are put into place. People here certainly have the right to disagree but they do not have the right to put words in our mouths.
We have a large Ukranian community here who are out demonstrating each and every day. I invite the two pro Russian supporters who have never denounced the Russian invasion to come and exercise their free rights by burning Ukranian flags in front of the demonstrators. While they are at it, they can burn a couple of American flags too. Let's see what kind of response they will get from society. I do not believe for a millisecond that anyone would come forward from the crowds and scream about these two's 'rights' to do so. Talk is cheap and actions speak louder then words. Come here and burn some flags if you so strongly believe in doing so. Let's see what happens.
Funny how our two flag burning proponents answer no questions about their military service. Neither has served and yet claim to be experts on what US Military personal believe. One does not even live in the USA and yet claims to be an expert on American affairs. Yet, he most likely would not appreciate Americans lecturing Canadians about their affairs or claiming to be experts on Canada. The fact is that both would not dare to exercise their 'rights' to burn flags because they know what would happen to them. If they do not happen to wind up in the hospital from the beatings they would receive, they would wind up on one court after another because any and every law would be thrown at them to make them pay the price for their stupidity. Images of burning American flags disgust people because what most people know are the foreign savages who burn our flag out of their hatred for America. The overwhelming majority of Americans respect our flag and thankfully there are very few and rare instances of our flag being burned. Traitors and foreigners who want to burn flags need to come and try it - and then they will see what americans will do to them. Our flag unites us all but that does not mean that there are gutless cowards and traitors who would use it to divide and destroy our nation.
Here are the image guidelines.If you uploaded a flat graphic, the software will determine that it isn't a face or a body and reject it. You can find the policies for acceptable images for the site somewhere on here, and I almost guarantee that it's not that it was a flag, US, Ukraine or otherwise, it's that it reads as a flat graphic or avatar and I don't think those are allowed here at all.
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No headless shots allowed if genitals are shown, PARTIAL FACE must at least be shown
Pictures must be nudist-friendly. No voyeuristic, exhibitionist photos
No sexual pictures, erections, crotch shots or pornographic pictures are not allowed
No Spread Eagle, or shots where the butt, genitals or anus are the main focus point.
No photos containing anyone under the age of 18. Even clothed photos
All pictures can be deleted at the discretion of the administrator
Please rotate, crop or adjust all photos, prior to upload. Improperly uploaded photos will be removed
As of 10/15/2021 : ONLY VERIFIED MEMBERS CAN UPLOAD PHOTOS CONTAINING NUDITY. ANY NUDE PHOTOS UPLOADED WILL BE DELETED
I don't see anything about flat graphic.
Here are the image guidelines.If you uploaded a flat graphic, the software will determine that it isn't a face or a body and reject it. You can find the policies for acceptable images for the site somewhere on here, and I almost guarantee that it's not that it was a flag, US, Ukraine or otherwise, it's that it reads as a flat graphic or avatar and I don't think those are allowed here at all.Media Upload RulesNo headless shots allowed if genitals are shown, PARTIAL FACE must at least be shownPictures must be nudist-friendly. No voyeuristic, exhibitionist photosNo sexual pictures, erections, crotch shots or pornographic pictures are not allowedNo Spread Eagle, or shots where the butt, genitals or anus are the main focus point.No photos containing anyone under the age of 18. Even clothed photosAll pictures can be deleted at the discretion of the administratorPlease rotate, crop or adjust all photos, prior to upload. Improperly uploaded photos will be removedAs of 10/15/2021 : ONLY VERIFIED MEMBERS CAN UPLOAD PHOTOS CONTAINING NUDITY. ANY NUDE PHOTOS UPLOADED WILL BE DELETEDI don't see anything about flat graphic.
I posted some minimally clothed pictures, genitals not showing , and not violating any of the posted rules, and they were still deleted. For some unknown reason they were still deleted at the discretion of an administrator. At that point I decided not to try again.
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