RE:My thoughts on clothing optional vs nudist

So I think this is a really interesting topic. Im a relatively new nudist, started with sleeping nude in high school (now about to be 30) and worked my way up to full on nudist at public places and full time at home over the last 7 or so years. I love going to camp grounds, beaches and resorts that promote and accept nudism. My partner on the other hand is much more hesitant and says they have to be in the right mood or the vibe has to be right. This make clothing optional locations more viable for us a couple. Things I have notice as a LGBTQ+ couple is that the locations we go to if they are clothing optional tend to range more sexual then what I have heard about Nudist resorts. In my experience some these places have a culture of if your nude your looking to hook up. While I recognize myself as more sexual then the average nudist, I can understand the appeal of nudist places that dont have that overt sexual culture, but given that my partner like the freedom to choose I dont see us visiting too many places where clothing is not an option. Thats said I have also found some clothing optional places that strike the perfect balance for us, but it took a lot of trying out to find places that worked. Would love to hear from other LGBTQ+ nudist if they have similar experiences.

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RE:My thoughts on clothing optional vs nudist

So I think this is a really interesting topic. Im a relatively new nudist, started with sleeping nude in high school (now about to be 30) and worked my way up to full on nudist at public places and full time at home over the last 7 or so years. I love going to camp grounds, beaches and resorts that promote and accept nudism. My partner on the other hand is much more hesitant and says they have to be in the right mood or the vibe has to be right. This make clothing optional locations more viable for us a couple. Things I have notice as a LGBTQ+ couple is that the locations we go to if they are clothing optional tend to range more sexual then what I have heard about Nudist resorts. In my experience some these places have a culture of if your nude your looking to hook up. While I recognize myself as more sexual then the average nudist, I can understand the appeal of nudist places that dont have that overt sexual culture, but given that my partner like the freedom to choose I dont see us visiting too many places where clothing is not an option. Thats said I have also found some clothing optional places that strike the perfect balance for us, but it took a lot of trying out to find places that worked. Would love to hear from other LGBTQ+ nudist if they have similar experiences.
Are the resorts you visit male only or both genders?

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doneright wrote:

I always wonder how you can 'try' something without doing it 100%? Using the logic on most things, you'd be like, how does that work? Try eating something new by just looking at it, how is that 'eating' it? Try 'driving', how does that work just getting in the car and not driving? So you are going to 'try' nudism but you stay clothed, were you nude?.

I get what you're saying. But just being exposed to something is the first step to embracing it. You can't taste something new by just looking at it, but if you're at a barbeque and you smell that chicken cooking, you're likely to get interested in tasting it. And if a person who has never seen an automobile is put in the driver's seat, that person will not have clue about what to do. But most of us have been in the passenger seat of a car since they were kids, and we've already amassed a lot of experience in what the sensation of driving is. And we've seen the person in the driver's seat operating the controls, using the brakes and steering wheel and such, so we were prepared for the driver's seat to some extent.

So while you can't really experience social nudity without trying it, you can get a taste of it by seeing how others react to it with each other. From that, it's a much shorter step to doing it yourself.

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RE:My thoughts on clothing optional vs nudist

So I think this is a really interesting topic. Im a relatively new nudist, started with sleeping nude in high school (now about to be 30) and worked my way up to full on nudist at public places and full time at home over the last 7 or so years. I love going to camp grounds, beaches and resorts that promote and accept nudism. My partner on the other hand is much more hesitant and says they have to be in the right mood or the vibe has to be right. This make clothing optional locations more viable for us a couple. Things I have notice as a LGBTQ+ couple is that the locations we go to if they are clothing optional tend to range more sexual then what I have heard about Nudist resorts. In my experience some these places have a culture of if your nude your looking to hook up. While I recognize myself as more sexual then the average nudist, I can understand the appeal of nudist places that dont have that overt sexual culture, but given that my partner like the freedom to choose I dont see us visiting too many places where clothing is not an option. Thats said I have also found some clothing optional places that strike the perfect balance for us, but it took a lot of trying out to find places that worked. Would love to hear from other LGBTQ+ nudist if they have similar experiences.Are the resorts you visit male only or both genders?

Ive been to a little bit of both, most of the camp grounds I have been to are open to all but only at the last one we went to that were really liked were there any women there. For the beach resort we go to every summer, the beach is open to all, genders and ages, but the resort is men only 21+.

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RE:My thoughts on clothing optional vs nudist

doneright wrote:I get what you're saying. But just being exposed to something is the first step to embracing it. You can't taste something new by just looking at it, but if you're at a barbeque and you smell that chicken cooking, you're likely to get interested in tasting it. And if a person who has never seen an automobile is put in the driver's seat, that person will not have clue about what to do. But most of us have been in the passenger seat of a car since they were kids, and we've already amassed a lot of experience in what the sensation of driving is. And we've seen the person in the driver's seat operating the controls, using the brakes and steering wheel and such, so we were prepared for the driver's seat to some extent.So while you can't really experience social nudity without trying it, you can get a taste of it by seeing how others react to it with each other. From that, it's a much shorter step to doing it yourself.

Thanks for the very thoughtful response. It is just what I would have said.

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Seems the despite the very reasonable and civil tone of this conversation the attack anything that doesnt align with my view crowd has descended and is trying to shift that tone - I do hope we can resist. This has been one of the best threads on here in tone and substance in years.

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I find it very interesting (to put it politely) that an alleged physician would not support what many clubs do - and that is to allow women on the monthly to wear something if they so chose. Demanding that women remain naked while on the monthly is a great way to chase women away from club nudism.

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RE:My thoughts on clothing optional vs nudist

Please stop yelling.

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RE:My thoughts on clothing optional vs nudist

Yes some need time to 'transition' to nudism but would it be better to 'just jump in'?

If it could be done, I think it would be interesting to poll "formerly reluctant spouses" (who took time "transitioning") on whether they feel "gradual acclimatization" was truly beneficial.
Because my "anecdotal evidence" suggests that women who took that approach - and ended up socially nude down the road - often expressed that they "wished they'd just done it earlier."

After waffling initially on social nudity, my (first) wife decided to take a "gradual acclimatization" approach, which included being nude only to swim or away from other people, and being at least partially covered when interacting with other nudists. The only issue was that once she got "on the fence", she couldn't quite make up her mind about "getting off of it." It was only after several trips, and quite some time, that an interaction with some friendly nudist women gave her the "push" to finally get "off the fence." Her "compulsive covering-up" was brought up - in a friendly way, which motivated her decision to drop her sarong and be completely naked with them. Once she made "the jump", she was "off the fence" and chose to be naked around other nudists from then on.
She would agree that "gradual acclimatization" didn't really work for her. And my "anecdotal evidence" would suggest it rarely does - at least not in a long-term manner. My (current) wife would say it does work; but then her own "gradual acclimatization" occurred over mere hours - not many months. On her first trip she started out with a cover-up; and by the end of the day she was walking around the pool area naked. Once you get "on the fence" about being seen naked; the longer you stretch it out, the harder it is to "get off of it."

That being said, I also recognize the fact that some reluctant spouses specifically choose to "accompany but not participate." C/O might then be an appropriate consensus for these couples. But the idea of C/O combined with extended "gradual acclimatization" to avoid "jumping in" actually complicates the "process", IMHO.

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