Steve has obviously become anothe victim of "selective" reading of the rules by another power crazed Moderator. Good that he made these comments public so that others can hear about this problem, many other members also commented on the same problems and have discussed this privately. With discussing these issues in a public forum hopefully a better quality of Moderator will be seen in future.
Not selective, just applying the ones that apply, couldn't kick him out for rule #1, or any of the others, he wasn't breaking or arguing about those
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Seems that it is time for everyone concerned to cool off a little bit. IMHO the entire cam function in chat room is the root problem as it gives too much room for interpretations. So far SteveW has my benefit of doubt as he seemed to chat on bed, couch or similar and then people tend to move a bit over time so that what initially was cam closer to face than genitals may turn into genitals closer to cam than face. In such positions when wanting a full body view and focusing on head might result in having the back of the head on view and not face - again an offence. On the other hand, not sure why it is necessary to have "full body" view on cam anyway, but that is not on debate here as there are no rules restricting that.
In general having a cam talk and not seeing a face is unpleasant, but otherwise I would not much care. If person doesn't do anything inappropriate AND has at least most of the time face well in view, why bother with more than a verbal note "u might want to change ur position a bit". Rules should in general be enforced with leniency and only clear and grave offenders be banned. But there should be limit, more rigorous with clear offenders and more leniency with others. Having said that, in our household cam is never on in TN chat and neither in most cases others being watched on cam, except maybe to verify person while chatting. So personally I couldn't care less if the cam feature is available or not, but as long as it is, focus should be on clear offenders and not in borderline cases.
What comes to possible comments in not participating in conversation in the open, I very rarely do it in any chats. Usually conversation in the open is not interesting, somewhat insiderous and at best simply banal. Any time an interesting topic would arise, I's happily talk in the open. Unfortunately that is mostly not the case. On the other hand, in private there is a possibility to go into less general conversation that would seem more meaningful. At least I am too busy to spend time just chattering about things that have only marginal interest to me. If personal interest to private communication is considered a felony in this community, I wonderwhat else is?
Also, please use some restrain before calling each other with names or tell them to fuck off.
Aki aka TravelNudie
For clarification, Jackie allows 3 warnings and Steve (in the case of SteveW) allows 'several' there seems to be quite a similar view between the Mods!
Just as there is a similar view between those who would flaunt those rules, that they were doing 'nothing' again and again!
Auschamp, your championing the rulebreakers does you a diservice and your comments #21 are insulting.
The chatroom is a far better place now there are mods and they are all to be congratulated, encouraged even.
auschamp....Two points:
Firstly, Rabbitnbunny do the job and do it well. I have always found them responsive, helpful and fair. This has been my experience with any Mod I have come in contact with.
Secondly, as an avid reader of the forums, it does appear, IMHO, that you are chasing NudeInMA from one forum to the next in a classic act of trollism.
I, for one, am growing weary of the constant temper tantrums showing up daily here on the boards.
If you cannot be constructive in criticism and refrain from personal attack, your thoughts and ideas will continue to appear hollow and whiny.
As someone said....just my two cents...
For clarification, Jackie allows 3 warnings and Steve (in the case of SteveW) allows 'several' there seems to be quite a similar view between the Mods! Just as there is a similar view between those who would flaunt those rules, that they were doing 'nothing' again and again! Auschamp, your championing the rulebreakers does you a diservice and your comments #21 are insulting. The chatroom is a far better place now there are mods and they are all to be congratulated, encouraged even.
Thank you for the clarification, Rene.
ALL of the mods give multiple warnings to people before they are kicked out. Sometimes those warnings come over several days or weeks. And most people who've been warned by one mod, have been warned by several mods, so the warnings far exceed the 3 warning process that was recommended by site admin. The only time NO warning is given is if some one is behaving in a sexual manneron cam or is sexually harassing another chat room user.
Auschamp, having communicated with both NIM and Rene for a very extended length of time and having chatted with Rene on cam, I can assure you that they are not the same person.
Jen
For clarification, Jackie allows 3 warnings and Steve (in the case of SteveW) allows 'several' there seems to be quite a similar view between the Mods! Just as there is a similar view between those who would flaunt those rules, that they were doing 'nothing' again and again! Auschamp, your championing the rulebreakers does you a diservice and your comments #21 are insulting. The chatroom is a far better place now there are mods and they are all to be congratulated, encouraged even.
Thank you for the clarification, Rene.
ALL of the mods give multiple warnings to people before they are kicked out. Sometimes those warnings come over several days or weeks. And most people who've been warned by one mod, have been warned by several mods, so the warnings far exceed the 3 warning process that was recommended by site admin. The only time NO warning is given is if some one is behaving in a sexual manneron cam or is sexually harassing another chat room user.
Auschamp, having communicated with both NIM and Rene for a very extended length of time and having chatted with Rene on cam, I can assure you that they are not the same person.
Jen
Well said Jen. I have had people turn their cam off when I warned them. They turned it back on a few minutes later with the same faceless cam view. They clearly intend to violate the rule because I have kicked some of the same people several times for same thing.