The same strict rules that apply to men should be applied to couples and women
Some of the moderators seem to protect fakes and nonnudists instead of keeping this site pure.
I was suspended from chat because I dared to tell an alleged couple (nonverified of course,who said there is nothing wrong with talking about swinging and being open swingers) thatthis is a nudist site not a swinging site and that it is just as wrong for women or couples to make sexual advances here as it is for men.
For that I was suspended from chat. Evidently some mods enjoy havingwomen and couples (most of which are probably men) hitting on people in chat and praise swinging. It seems to me this site has room for improvement when it comes to moderation.
Interestingly enough a couple that was challenging the same couple I did (both before and after I was muted) had nothing done tothem not even muted let alone kicked out. It seems that single meneven whenverifiedand who speak in the room fairly frequently aretreated lesser than non-verified couples and women who never appeared on cam and rarely type in the room. The desperation to protect fake women and couples who are merely looking forpeople to hit on, watchothers on cam and ask to see morephotos is puzzling to say the least.
The same standards applied to men should be applied to all. That would go a long way to weeding out those simply here to perv. That includes people flagging the female and couple profiles that flout the rules not just males.
Another example is that I have noticed sizable number of female profiles who have no head photos or their heads blacked out and thus the photos are of only their chest or other body parts. one such person who claims to be lesbian and only wanted to tlak to women complainted about horny men messenging her. I responded that maybe if she didn't have photos of only her breasts and crotch then maybe she would get a response from real people instead of pervs. For thatI was muted and warned. I thought that shots of just the breasts or crotch alone were not allowed. For daring to say such or say that if you post such photos you invite pervsI was muted. It seems some people enjoy seeing such photos and do not want the practice ended or such people challenged.
Those tired of the antics need to flag such people, enough flagging might get the profile actually reviewed. If you are sick of pervs than you should be opposed to all pervs including female or men posing as females/couples not merely men.
Hey I get you totally! I'm a member on many sites for many lifestyles and trust me there are fakes everywhere! Most people join sites for the sole purpose of snagging pics, getting their rocks off or some other freaky thing they find exotic. I've been banned for speaking my peace on other sites BUT I never waiver from my stance and within time the mod's see I'm right and they are wrong...trust me hang in there and stay on point...its a small blip in the road.
The mods have no control over what is posted in someone's profile or in the forums. They moderate the chatrooms only, based on the behavior of the people in the chatrooms. For the most part, they all do an excellent job. Some mistakes are made, but they are few and far between.
It's okay to ask questions in the chatroom without getting too personal, but when someone is singled out, their first reaction is to defend themselves, even if they are in violation of the site rules. I don't know what happened this time, but I have seen you question people in the past, and things became aggressively confrontational on both sides. I don't know if that was your intention, but when things become uncomfortable for the majority in chat, then it should be dealt with. Please don't misinterpret this. I'm in no way "calling you out," but merely stating what I have observed.
Perhaps it would be better to simply block those that you find offensive, and quietly flag them without calling them out. This is non-confrontational, and does get results.
Zeke
I was there, in the chat at this time. NJ's being kicked out was due to a clear violation of the chat rules. He had been warned by the moderator once. It is not NJ's place, nor any other member's place, to challenge another member in the chat. If a member has a problem, the option, and correct proceedure, is to flag that cituation for the admins to make the decision. The appropriateness of a chat discussion should be left up to the moderator's discresion. If inappropriate, the moderator will take care of it, as was done in this case. The inappropriate chat in this case was on the part of NJ, and his being kicked out of the chat was justified.
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I just want to add one thing; though this particular moderator and I differ here and there on certain principals, I was most impressed with their handling of this situation. Once again, the mods do a helluva job.
I was there, in the chat at this time. NJ's being kicked out was due to a clear violation of the chat rules. He had been warned by the moderator once. It is not NJ's place, nor any other member to challenge another member in the chat. If a member has a problem, the situation is to be flagged and sent to TT1 or TT2. The appropriateness of a chat discussion should be left up to the moderator's disgression. If inappropriate, the moderator will take care of it, as was done in this case. The inappropriate chat in this case was on the part of NJ, and his being kicked out of the chat was justified. . I just want to add one thing; though this particular moderator and I differ here and there on certain principals, I was most impressed with their handling of this situation. Once again, the mods do a helluva job.
Hilarous that it is out of line to tell someone this is not a swinger site.
In other words you enjoy the people who talk about swinging as long as they are a female or couple and have no problem with this site being a haven for pervs. That in turn is why so many people are driven away from this site. Many real nudists are driven away by the pervs.As long as such is tolerated many nudists who come to see what it is about will not stay.
You forget, NJ, I was there. You and I both know, that is not the extent of your dealings with this member. This issue has nothing to do with my feelings on the sexual nature of this site, which I too bemoan; and everything to do with your behavior in the chat. Re-read the chat rules. You have a problem, flag.
You forget, NJ, I was there. You and I both know, that is not the extent of your dealings with this member. This issue has nothing to do with my feelings on the sexual nature of this site, which I too bemoan; and everything to do with your behavior in the chat. Re-read the chat rules. You have a problem, flag.
If you were there then you saw how this person was discussing swinging which is a chat violation. A chat violation is the job of amoderator to handle not flagging. That is why they exist. The moderator failed to do his job and allowed her to discuss swinging with the Brazilian swingers. Instead of warning the person about swinging he banned me for stating this is a nudist site not a swinger site. Jeep-er and many others said the same exact thing and even more forcefully and nothing happened to them when they said such. What i said was accurate about this site not being a swinger site.
NJ, while I happen to agree with you in principal, your methods in dealing with them are not in agreement with site guidelines. You have made two posts here today, both of them show you to be a concerned member, hoping that the site can become less sexual. However, this one deals with an event that took place in the chat. There, you ran across a member who was taking about a subject you took to be sexual. You did not stop at telling the person that the topic was sexual and therefore not appropriate, you went on to name calling and frankly, harrassment. This is what got you kicked out, this is what broke the rules. The second post is likewise not good. I don't know if your view of child pornography is a legal one. But the person's profile name should not have been used. Again, that is what the administration is here for, and likewise, that is what the moderators are here for, to interpret the site guidelines. To maintain civility, we must all accept their interpretation. That isn't to say, we turn a blind eye, for they ask for our help, and that is where flagging comes in.
Fatpizzaman, we both know why some folks are understandably reluctant to have their faces on camera. I would guess that we have a wide range of people here including some in public service who prefer to remain anonnymous (nothing wrong with that). As for banning swingers how do you know who they are untill they break cover and even if they do, nothing can be doen unless they step out of line.
You forget, NJ, I was there. You and I both know, that is not the extent of your dealings with this member. This issue has nothing to do with my feelings on the sexual nature of this site, which I too bemoan; and everything to do with your behavior in the chat. Re-read the chat rules. You have a problem, flag.
If you were there then you saw how this person was discussing swinging which is a chat violation. A chat violation is the job of amoderator to handle not flagging. That is why they exist. The moderator failed to do his job and allowed her to discuss swinging with the Brazilian swingers. Instead of warning the person about swinging he banned me for stating this is a nudist site not a swinger site. Jeep-er and many others said the same exact thing and even more forcefully and nothing happened to them when they said such. What i said was accurate about this site not being a swinger site.
Guess it's about time for the moderator to chime in here. The mod wasn't even in the room during the alleged conversation about swinging. The mod came into the room and observed repeated attacks on another member, and after numerous warnings, booted you. REGARDLESS of what you feel about another person's lifestyle outside of the chatroom, you are still required to follow the chatroom rules. And for what it's worth, quite a few women have been booted form chat, but oddly enough, they seem to learn their lesson and don't reoffend.
Since you decided to out yourself fine. you are baltantly lying here in particular your claim about not being in the room at thetime sarascott and Brazilian whatever were discussing swinging.You were in the room and didn't issue me or anyone else any warning about discussing swinging.While you were in the room Beachcouple67 noted he could not stand fakes without signling out anyone and then sarascott started attacking him for calling out fakes. I stated that those who are so bent on protecting fakes are indicting themselves and beachcouple said the same thing. I was muted for that while beachcouple was not he continued his discussion.WhileI was muted you warned the room about challenging people who werefakes. Beachcouple67 said he didn't single out anyone as a fake he made a general comment about being sick of fakes but that sarascott getting so defensive despite not being accused first said volumes. Also while mited sarascott said they are open swingers and there is nothing wrong with seeking swingers here. At that point Braziliansoemthingsaid they are also swingers and started discussing it with sarascott in the room. When I was unmutedI said this is not a swinger site it is a nudist site. You kicked me out for that. Your claim you were not there as they discussed swingingis pure revisionism. People can ask beachcouple67 about it. I have never spoken to him in private or even much in the room so he has no reason to lie to people on my behalf about what transpired.
I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents here. Why not delete the chat board completely?
Any time I have been in there, it has been mayhem, with private conversations happening all over the place and very few welcoming voices. Lots of requests for me to show my tits though! That just aint cool. Maybe the problem is rooted in the cameras being so easy to use, and the participants so willing to show swexual acts on the cam. I wont be showing anyone what happens between my legs, that is between me and my man!
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