Curious what you know or understand about the colonial era in history? It might inform your commentNothing to do with fish, but I often think that when European explorers and settlers reached tropical areas, it would have made more sense for them to ditch most of not all of their clothes and live appropriately (un)dressed like native population instead of expecting the natives to adopt European dress stand which makes little sense in the tropics.
Curious what you know or understand about the colonial era in history? It might inform your commentNothing to do with fish, but I often think that when European explorers and settlers reached tropical areas, it would have made more sense for them to ditch most of not all of their clothes and live appropriately (un)dressed like native population instead of expecting the natives to adopt European dress stand which makes little sense in the tropics.
Not that much about colonial history in the tropics.
Going back to the dream.....
I've had dreams where I was naked, or ended up naked, and spoken to others who have had similar dreams, but nearly always you are or end up naked due to some circumstance out of your control, its rarely your "fault" as it were. ..
Interesting in this one it was your choice, not only that, but this was Caesar crossing the Rubicon, a point of no return, never any going back as you were fully aware, once off you had no way of ever putting them back on,
In psychology, dreams are often a metafore for what's happening in real life, be interesting to know if you've had any big decisions to make that this might pertain to,
The mind is a weird and wonderful thing, I often make big decisions based on the toss of a coin, not that I go with how it lands, but as soon as you toss it you somehow instantly know which way you WANT it to land, and that's the decision!!!!
minimalist wrote:Nothing to do with fish, but I often think that when European explorers and settlers reached tropical areas, it would have made more sense for them to ditch most of not all of their clothes and live appropriately (un)dressed like native population instead of expecting the natives to adopt European dress stand which makes little sense in the tropics.
From what I've read, English and American colonists went out of their way to preserve the culture they brought with them, even using clothing that made no sense in their present environment. And they usually brought with them a religion that frowned on public nudity in any form. It was their way of continuing to be the same people they were back home.
Pretty accurate description of why the colonialists imposed their clothing choices on the indigenous people. Had very little to do with clothing on its own and everything to do with imposing "civilized" cultural values on the "savage" indigenous people. This was true throughout all European colonialism.From what I've read, English and American colonists went out of their way to preserve the culture they brought with them, even using clothing that made no sense in their present environment. And they usually brought with them a religion that frowned on public nudity in any form. It was their way of continuing to be the same people they were back home.
Hes talking about you bringing up why explorers didnt adopt local dress customs. If you understood about colonial history then your input might have been more informed.
In James Michener's Hawaii, written by an author known for his thorough historical research, he wrote about how the early Puritan missionaries were shocked at how natives swam naked in the ocean, fearing that it tapped into their reptile/fish brains which would effectively give up any ability to make rational, godly choices.
I've read other accounts that economics and creating new export markets played an important role in early explorers and settlers disdain for local dress (or lack thereof) as well. Both England and the US had strong textile industries focused on wool and cotton, whereas tropical climates used native fibers. For example, in Hawaii clothes were made from kapa, a traditional textile made from the inner bark of the paper mulberry plant, and in the Philippines from pineapple fibers. Even if missionaries had no economic incentives, they were likely to view native technologies and materials as inferior and primitive compared to their manufactured products.
Thanks for jumping in to the intention. Guess my effort at a gentle response was a bit unclear.
eHes talking about you bringing up why explorers didnt adopt local dress customs.If you understood about colonial history then your input might have been more informed.
Thanks for jumping in to the intention. Guess my effort at a gentle response was a bit unclear. Hes talking about you bringing up why explorers didnt adopt local dress customs. If you understood about colonial history then your input might have been more informed.
Yes, and your intention is still unclear. With a BA in history I won't claim "truth" but can see relationships between social mores, religious morals and global trade in the era of US colonialism. I'm curious on how would elaborate your concept of informed input regarding why explorers resisted or failed to adopt local dress customs.
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