Guys' size
Yes, this is about "that" size. But let's be clear. It's not about what women prefer (we covered that to death in the previous group). Just to summ it up here in the words of a former member, a lovely lady with lots of swinging experience who unfortunately left TN: "I have had hundreds of cocks inside me and all, with just a couple who were of extreme sizes, felt good. But if I were to choose the perfect size I would say that anything between 6 and 7 inches fits that definition".
t's also not about what men prefer to own. We know that. All men would like to be as massive as possible. In fact men act in this respect as if their main sexual attraction was to cows, not women.
This is more about what heterosexual men like to see.
Let's take porn as an example. We know that a lot more men than women watch (and especially pay for) porn. Unsurprisingly, most porn is produced with a male audience as a target. Those plasticky, siliconed, botoxed babes who say yes to the most extreme stuff and go "oh, oh, oh" for two straight hours? Yes, I guess that's the ideal of most men. Cool that, this is not the issue here. I do prefer natural, but I can admire a nice boob work or nice body art too.
What surprises me is the men in those movies. They are all in the top 0.1% in terms of the size of their instrument and most are relatively good looking, fit and muscular. Is this really what turns on the primary audience of these films, ie straight men? This kind of "art" normalizes the idea that the average male size is around ten inch and surely must create a complex in 99%, if not 99.9% of hetero men? Just like we women are complexed by those photoshopped models we see in fashion magazines. Their thighs are smaller than my ankle, their waist narrower than my biceps and their eyes and lips bigger than my fists. Ok, we are still cheated into buying those clothes, but that is in the desperate hope to look like them. Do you guys have this desperate hope that you will grow your dick if you buy porn? I don't think so.
I could understand it if the target audience were women. I guess those tools are nice to look at even though not very nice to use. And we women do make this difference. I told you the story of my Bottoms-up Bottomless Wine tasting club. We had a spectacularly gifted lady and a spectacularly gifted guy in our group. The lady had someting like F cups or more and they were hanging quite well, so we always insited that she also takes her top down when presenting her chosen wine and gasped in admiration when she did that. But did I want to wear those? Absolutely not. I was fine with admiring (and sometimes teasingly caressing) those. While I am sure that all men in the room dreamt of squeezing as much of them as possible while you know... doing other things to the owner.
The guy was also very spectacular. He was quite short, relatively muscular and his thing hanged down almost to his knees. He didn't get much bigger when erect and he didn't get erect often, but I suspect that in the flaccid state he must have been close to 10 inch. He did make guys feel uncomfortable and us ladies gasp and giggle. It was nice to look at but did I want that thing inside me? Absolutely not. We did tease his girlfriend and asked for details and she admitted that no, he couldn't put all that inside her and he had to go slowly otherwise it would hurt. Guys, we can accommodate some girth (a baby's head is supposed to pass there) but not a big length and if you are big and go a bit hard you will hit against the end of our jukebox and it is very unpleasant. So stop dreaming of being made like a horse please. In fact, his girlfriend was not the jealous type and offered (only half jokingly, I believe) to lend him to any of us and to the best of my knowledge none of us accepted the offer,
But in case porn videos with big guys were made for us ladies, the girls would be beautiful (I also like to look at girls) but more natural. As for gay guys, I guess they appreciate big guys too, but the women involved are a waste of space - and that most likely buy gay videos to save time. I'm only maybe 75% straight and not ashamed to admit that I like looking at girls (and there are good evolutionary reasons why they are more visually attractive then men) but why would 100% straight men like to look at those very endowed male porn stars?
If I were a guy, I guess what I would like to see is of course spectacularly beautiful girls (fine, probably Botox, silicone and excessive makeup included, who am I to judge) but I would probably prefer to see in those movies short, fat, ugly guys with a small instrument. That wouldn't give me any size complex and would make me think that if those beauties fall for such guy they would fall for me too.
Ok guys, yes, I know, you all have a bigger tool than porn stars and all, you don't need to mention it. But seriously, if you are 100% straight why do you still prefer to see those stallions in porn movies? Or maybe you don't but producers have no idea and think that you want to see pure performance? Do you buy them like we buy sexy clothes, imagining yourselves in the actors' skin?
And on a nudist beach, do you like the view of an immense male appendice, do you envy it (yes you do!) or does that make you feel uncomfortable and puny?
Plus, one last question. Female bodybuilders take steroids which grow their clitoris to the size of a tiny penis. Do you find that attractive and sexy?
Yes, this is about "that" size. But let's be clear. It's not about what women prefer (we covered that to death in the previous group). Just to summ it up here in the words of a former member, a lovely lady with lots of swinging experience who unfortunately left TN: "I have had hundreds of cocks inside me and all, with just a couple who were of extreme sizes, felt good. But if I were to choose the perfect size I would say that anything between 6 and 7 inches fits that definition".t's also not about what men prefer to own. We know that. All men would like to be as massive as possible. In fact men act in this respect as if their main sexual attraction was to cows, not women.This is more about what heterosexual men like to see.Let's take porn as an example. We know that a lot more men than women watch (and especially pay for) porn. Unsurprisingly, most porn is produced with a male audience as a target. Those plasticky, siliconed, botoxed babes who say yes to the most extreme stuff and go "oh, oh, oh" for two straight hours? Yes, I guess that's the ideal of most men. Cool that, this is not the issue here. I do prefer natural, but I can admire a nice boob work or nice body art too.What surprises me is the men in those movies. They are all in the top 0.1% in terms of the size of their instrument and most are relatively good looking, fit and muscular. Is this really what turns on the primary audience of these films, ie straight men? This kind of "art" normalizes the idea that the average male size is around ten inch and surely must create a complex in 99%, if not 99.9% of hetero men? Just like we women are complexed by those photoshopped models we see in fashion magazines. Their thighs are smaller than my ankle, their waist narrower than my biceps and their eyes and lips bigger than my fists. Ok, we are still cheated into buying those clothes, but that is in the desperate hope to look like them. Do you guys have this desperate hope that you will grow your dick if you buy porn? I don't think so.I could understand it if the target audience were women. I guess those tools are nice to look at even though not very nice to use. And we women do make this difference. I told you the story of my Bottoms-up Bottomless Wine tasting club. We had a spectacularly gifted lady and a spectacularly gifted guy in our group. The lady had someting like F cups or more and they were hanging quite well, so we always insited that she also takes her top down when presenting her chosen wine and gasped in admiration when she did that. But did I want to wear those? Absolutely not. I was fine with admiring (and sometimes teasingly caressing) those. While I am sure that all men in the room dreamt of squeezing as much of them as possible while you know... doing other things to the owner.The guy was also very spectacular. He was quite short, relatively muscular and his thing hanged down almost to his knees. He didn't get much bigger when erect and he didn't get erect often, but I suspect that in the flaccid state he must have been close to 10 inch. He did make guys feel uncomfortable and us ladies gasp and giggle. It was nice to look at but did I want that thing inside me? Absolutely not. We did tease his girlfriend and asked for details and she admitted that no, he couldn't put all that inside her and he had to go slowly otherwise it would hurt. Guys, we can accommodate some girth (a baby's head is supposed to pass there) but not a big length and if you are big and go a bit hard you will hit against the end of our jukebox and it is very unpleasant. So stop dreaming of being made like a horse please. In fact, his girlfriend was not the jealous type and offered (only half jokingly, I believe) to lend him to any of us and to the best of my knowledge none of us accepted the offer,But in case porn videos with big guys were made for us ladies, the girls would be beautiful (I also like to look at girls) but more natural. As for gay guys, I guess they appreciate big guys too, but the women involved are a waste of space - and that most likely buy gay videos to save time. I'm only maybe 75% straight and not ashamed to admit that I like looking at girls (and there are good evolutionary reasons why they are more visually attractive then men) but why would 100% straight men like to look at those very endowed male porn stars?If I were a guy, I guess what I would like to see is of course spectacularly beautiful girls (fine, probably Botox, silicone and excessive makeup included, who am I to judge) but I would probably prefer to see in those movies short, fat, ugly guys with a small instrument. That wouldn't give me any size complex and would make me think that if those beauties fall for such guy they would fall for me too.Ok guys, yes, I know, you all have a bigger tool than porn stars and all, you don't need to mention it. But seriously, if you are 100% straight why do you still prefer to see those stallions in porn movies? Or maybe you don't but producers have no idea and think that you want to see pure performance? Do you buy them like we buy sexy clothes, imagining yourselves in the actors' skin?And on a nudist beach, do you like the view of an immense male appendice, do you envy it (yes you do!) or does that make you feel uncomfortable and puny?Plus, one last question. Female bodybuilders take steroids which grow their clitoris to the size of a tiny penis. Do you find that attractive and sexy?
This is one of those subjects where it would also be great to hear from the ladies.
Occasionally I see guys who are huge, I can't say I'm envious nor uncomfortable... it's not something I would like myself or pursue achieving, I'm quite happy with how I am.
I am also sure porn producers do not survey a wide enough audience to see what they would like to see.
Porn does have a serious adverse effect on the younger generation in my view, this unreal universe I'm sure causes issues where folk believe they need to perform like these "stars".
For female bodybuilders... a natural large clitoris is quite beautiful, an unnaturally grown one... hmmm think i willl give those a pass. I do admire the effort required by male and female bodybuilders but I don't really have any desire to look like one nor am particularly attracted to an overly muscular lady.
Richie point of view.
As usual, well written Flora. When watching porn I personally would prefer to see the male actor with a tool more similar to my own, it would be easier to immerse myself in the fantasy. And isnt that why we watch porn? To become involved with the scene, to be there ? As far as witnessing a large cock on the beach, everyone looks and says "holy shit look at that thing". I am not ashamed to admit that i would acknowledge and admire it, most hetero men do but are ashamed to admit. As far as making me feel "puny" , i dont fee that way. We are all built differently and bring different things to the table. The man with the massive penis might be well hung but cannot add 2+2 if you get my meaning. Plus being a less than tall person has made me , throughout my life, willing to accept that most everyone is bigger than me , so be it. Regarding artificially enlarged clitoris, I prefer natural and in my opinion large is fine. As with any part of the wonderful female physique please leave it alone. Embrace what you have. Show it. Own it.
As usual, well written Flora. When watching porn I personally would prefer to see the male actor with a tool more similar to my own, it would be easier to immerse myself in the fantasy. And isnt that why we watch porn? To become involved with the scene, to be there ? As far as witnessing a large cock on the beach, everyone looks and says "holy shit look at that thing". I am not ashamed to admit that i would acknowledge and admire it, most hetero men do but are ashamed to admit. As far as making me feel "puny" , i dont fee that way. We are all built differently and bring different things to the table. The man with the massive penis might be well hung but cannot add 2+2 if you get my meaning. Plus being a less than tall person has made me , throughout my life, willing to accept that most everyone is bigger than me , so be it. Regarding artificially enlarged clitoris, I prefer natural and in my opinion large is fine. As with any part of the wonderful female physique please leave it alone. Embrace what you have. Show it. Own it.
Well put Stone, agreed.
I'm happy with what I have, but I guess it's nice to dream, occasionally. I wouldn't call it envy, though, perhaps just admiration.
Meanwhile, I'm happy to be just another guy in a clothing-optional zone while presenting satisfactorily in a brief swimsuit otherwise.
First, A man's size is relevant to the person. I agree with you, Flora, 6-7 inches is a great size that would please most individuals. Girth is essential, but more so how it is used. Being irritated by someone too large can not be the most exciting event.
Seeing a large male on the beach is exciting but does not make me want to possess such a manly thing, most females are happy with the 6-7 inch version.
A female on steroids who possesses a stout clitoris is something I find infatuating but something I would not seek out. I often find the feminine stature more inviting.
Im happy with the size I've got just over 6.5 inch uncut as long as I can pee and have sex with it then I'm happy
Must admit sometimes i would like a larger penis, mine is quite small but grows to 7 inch when aroused, having said that i am happy with the size of my penis
Now I was sure that if I create a topic about size, even if I announce that it's about their preference in porn, not about what ladies prefer or about how much individual guys measure, we'll have non members boasting about theirs.
Clearly ENL male members (pardon the pun) are modest and happy with what they have.
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