A buddy of mine was very skinny when he went in for his draft notice check up. He was so underweight he did not pass. When he told his wife that he was exempted because he did not weigh enough , she replied " why didn't you put some weights in your underpants" He replied " honey you ain't got underpants on when they weigh you"
An older coworker of mine mentioned that when he went to basic training one summer as part of his ROTC training, when they got there they were ordered to remove all of their clothing, out it in a box and ship it back home. They then went through the physical and some other induction procedures nude. After that, they were issued uniforms one item at a time, starting with hats!
I hear ya. But to put in perspective; 16 weeks versus 18+ years. Those 16 weeks won't change too much about people's perspective of seeing other naked bodies.
Agree, the idea of being completely naked in the presence of other naked without feeling even little embarrassed needs a lot of experience for years.
With gays in the military or even closeted gays or bisexuals that is likely a cause. Thats not a slight against gays or bisexual men. Its because a lot of men think that gay or bisexual men are after them, which is kind of arrogant. Im like bro, you arent all that and you dont mix work with pleasure.
With gays in the military or even closeted gays or bisexuals that is likely a cause. Thats not a slight against gays or bisexual men. Its because a lot of men think that gay or bisexual men are after them, which is kind of arrogant. Im like bro, you arent all that and you dont mix work with pleasure.
Agree. And gay men, let me tell you, are way more particular than straight men are when it comes to what they're attracted to. If you aren't even somewhat good looking by societal standards (whatever those are) most gay guys aren't going to be interested in you anyway.
When it comes to orientation discussions though, times are a changin'. And it's becoming quite revelatory. There are a lot of men who call themselves straight who aren't totally straight. And I'm one who believes that the % of gays/bis is actually higher than the % that is often stated.
Just on TN, I have guys whose profiles say they're straight engage me in conversations that frequently go more, how shall we say, open-minded.
As a gay dude, when I was out on dating websites, or even meeting people in social circles, I can't tell you how many men I met who I found out either had a girlfriend or a wife. Of course, when I found out, I didn't see them anymore. I think the % of bisexual men is particularly higher than most would suspect. And I know all of the bi guys I've met said they were more attracted to men than women. So go and figure.
That closet is a lot bigger than many suspect. Even though we're living in an era where it's more accepted. I'll joke with my straight buddies and friends sometimes that if every dude who had ever had sex with a guy, messed around with a guy, thought about messing with a guy, etc. were to turn green for 24 hours, there would be a lot of shocked wives, girlfriends, brothers, parents, and buddies. lol. Hell, my friends were shocked when they found out about me. And to be honest, that stereotype that people often think about when the discussion of gay men comes up, isn't as common as you think. The media will always push the flamboyant gays in movies, TV, etc. But in day to day life, most of the gay guys I've met don't fit that stereotype. Obviously when the stereotype enters the room, everyone knows instantly. My point is that there are a lot more who are flying under the radar.
I know some would say that gay and bi men just want to THINK there are more out there than there really are. But no, I've lived it. I've met them. And the numbers aren't small.
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