Im fairly new on the site and I agree with most f these comments. I filled out MY profile, as nicely as I could and still be a little "private".
Ive put up quite a few pics. Every one is authentic too. I too, read profiles. I want to see a few pics. I'll get in the chat room and talk to anyone. Enjoy talking to people with same interests and ideas and outlook on things.
When someone wants to "be my new friend" They had better have a profile and some pics to see. I look for different things. If any are there, I deny that person/persons. I have to go on assumptions and gut feelings and observations. I can be wrong and I will perhaps be the dumb one but that is what it is. Thanks to all you nudists.......true nudists, whom are reaching out to be a friend and to find a friend.
Anyway, don't know if it's worth going to the trouble, not seen a list of reasons why I should. What are the benefits apart from being able to see all the pics and the perceived increased credibility?
Have to agree Phil, at the moment I am still not convinced, I know I am a True Nudist and I damn well know where we have gone and all, and I made sure my profile was filled out, just too many on here with no profile, and I totally reject any friends request that do not have a profile, but we seem to be holding our own, I fell anyone with out a profile should not be allowed in, and the pictures you post here are not protected so anyone can grab pictures and use where ever they want. Guess being cert a True Nudist will come when I feel comfortable enough to do it. So far not a bad site but can see some cleaning up to do. Just my 2 cents for the day!
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but you're reasoning is flawed about not wanting toget certified. You are saying that you are concerned about people hijacking the pics you use to get certified, yet you have photo's of yourself posted in your profile? Even though only your friends who are "true nudists" can see them, they can still get lifted off you by them. I'm sorry, but if you do not trust the site, then I don't understand why you would even post a picture of yourself? Like I said, I'm not trying to be an ass, but it just doesn't make any sense to me.
While I can see what you mean about a person filling out their profile, but to me (I think you even touch on this on another post) anybody can say anything in their profile. Personally I would trust a picture certification over a fully completed profile any day. While I do read profiles, I don't put much stock in them. I have been to many different sites where profiles are requried and it's been my experience, that people generally are trying to put their best foot forward to attract other people to their profile. So, really, unless you actually chat with these people, everythig on that profile is just a bunch of hooey. My main concern when I talk to someone is knowing that they are who they say they are and the only way to be certain of that is through picture verification. Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to villify people who are not verified on this site, as you can see from my friends list I have many non verified members. However, those people who are not verified will always be questioned in the back of my mind as to being real until I get some satisfaction of them being true (ie webcam or through this site). I understand that may sound paronoid to you, but I've had too much experience with fakes out in the wide world of web not to be.
Anyways mate, hope you don't think I'm picking on you, I'm not. I'm just trying to get you to understand where I'm coming from.
There actually is a really good thread about this going with a lot of great answers from folks about why they have or haven't become "certified". Check it out under the announcements forum in the "keep it clean" thread.I actually agree with both sides of the coin on this one. It's a fantastic idea to help filter out a lot of the BS that you get on other sites but at the same time I can completely understand why someone would be somewhat hesitant to put themselves out there if you will. Jon-Marc, that's a great story aboutyour experience in the hospital LOL. I can just picture the look on that womans face during the phone conversation HAHA. I work in the health care industry and believe it or not there are actually some really crazy laws and regulations that we have to follow in an effort to preserve patient modesty regardless of whether they give a damn or not. I've got loads of great stories to go along with that line of thought but there justisn't enough time in the day to type them all out here.
Thanks for that Steve, I did go and check it out. To be honest, you thought of the only acceptable reason to me for not getting verified and that's the nudity issue. lol...As paronoid as I am, it did not even dawn on me that the people who run this site could post our pics around (though I highly doubt they do, but in todays world you just never know). I have heard a saying that once you post a pic on the web, it's everywhere for the world to see and I COMPLETELY understand why people would be hesitant to post a nude pic, even to a web administrator. While I have not been here that long, it would seem to me that they main reason they have this option is to verify that the people are real, with being a real nudist as a secondary concern.
If it's possible, maybe they should have two levels of verification? One level being true, a fully clothed picture holding a sign saying whatever and the other level being True Nudist and going through the process we currently do. Maybe as an incentive, for people to get to the "true" level, only people who are "true" can have access to the chat room or better yet, only "true" members can see profile pictures? That way people can feel confident that the people they are chatting to are real and that any pictures they post will be viewed by real people (which there would be a less chanceof them gettingstolen). Then true nudists have the access they have now and call it a day. I know that may not seem fair to people who use this site who do not have access to a digital camera (but those people who I saw say that on the other thread had pics, so they at least have access to a scanner), but hey, this site is free and we all have seen what kind of crap goes on in free sites. If you want to talk to real people that would be the price you pay, get a camera. lol
I don't know, just an idea. I don't care if someone is a nudist or not, makes no difference to me, but I do care that if a person is real.
I don't know if the profiles are checked before certification is granted or not, but they should be. If everyone did take advantage of the security features here there would be a lot less for the gawkers to look at. Most of the site, especially the gallery should be only available to true nudists. I think it should be a lot harder to get certified, maybe need six truenudists to recommend you or something. If all you have to do is wave into your web cam, anyone (well, except me :( can do it, therefore to be really safe, you need to make your pic's only available to your friends. AND, ..... I think you should ALL start a petition, ......... to, ..... "GET PHIL CERTIFIED!" :) hehe, have a nice day !!!
lol...Mate, of all the people who are against verification, you are the last person I would think who would be, Phil. Given all the grief you and I have had to put up with when it came to fake profiles, I thought you would be all over this like white on rice. Imagine how much less grief we would've had to deal with if annie was prevented from deleting and making nancy, then deleting and making joey and making how many other numerous bogus profiles on NS? If that person had to verify themselves as real (not real nudists, just real), they wouldn't have gone to the bother and we wouldn't have had to deal with half the crap we dealt with over there. There are just too many fakes out there and to see a verification process on a nudist site and free nudist site to boot, hell! I figure you'd be like me and cream your pants! LOL!
Ohhhhhhhhh Swifty, I thought u were my BEST friend!!!
I'm NOT against verification !!! hehehe
There are a number of considerations here, and no doubt there was a lot of debate in the planning of this site. Everything is a compromise, remember, it is run on advertising revenue and it's not flooded with adds, so the system needs to be pretty slick and not take up too much time.
Something is usually better than nothing, we're just saying that it might give a false sense of security. It all depends on what criteria the guy uses to make the decision. If all you have to do is wave into your cam, then you could be anything from a Priest to a Perv, and still get qualified. IF that is the case, then that true status doesn't mean much to me. It just means that the pic you put up looks like you.
But thinking about it, that's about all you can do, apart from requiring recommendations, so the best defence, is to be careful who you accept as a friend, and not add them till you've got to know them a bit, and then restrict access to your friends only.
Of course I would like to be qualified, but it's just not at the top of my list. If it were much more difficult to obtain, and provided more benefits, (i.e. more restrictions on basic members) then it would be.
I've said this before, at least at an unregulated site it is much easier to see who you're dealing with, the problem is, the bad behaviour frightens off the genuine ones. On a regulated site, there are fewer of them, but those that get through are invisible, so in a way, it's more difficult.
lol...You're still my best mate on here, Phil, don't you worry.
I do see where you are comming from, because in reality there is no perfect solution to protecting oneself from frauds online. That said though, verifying a photograh is to date one of the better solutions out there. The thing that fraudsters rely upon to wreak the havok they do is anonymity. While a picture does not make a person loose that anonymity entirely, a big chunk of it is gone when that person is verified as a real person. Most people, once they are confirmed as being real, will keep themselves in check to a degreeto avoid therepercussions of their actions, as they are no longer a faceless user in the crowd. They are now confirmed as being real. If that makes any sense.
However, as it stands you are right, there is no real incentive for people to become verified. That said though, the other night I was in the verified users only chatroom and at one stage there was something like 9 of us in there and only 2 or 3 people in the regular chatroom. As we are here to communicate with people, I think given time that will be the biggest motivator as more and more people will only be communicating with verified users on a regular basis instead of non verified. In the end, the non-verified users will be left in the cold and not be able to talk to anybody. Which really defeats the purpose of them being here. Until such time as that happens though, you are right, their needs to be a greater incentive than that to convince people to get verified. Personally, I like my suggestion that I gave in my response to Steve's post. Hehe...but then again, I'm biased.
Now I AM disappointed, recnude has no photo and next to no profile,AND HE'S JUST BEEN CERTIFIED ????????????? I hope someone knows something that I don't !!!!!!!!!
Phil, when you are getting certified, you are certifying to the website that you are who you say you are, from what I understand you are not obligated to post a picture of yourself for everybody to see.While I don't necessarily agree with it, I can understand why as the photo's on this site are not protected. That at least is my understanding, but I could be talking out of my ass. lol
My main concern when I talk to someone is knowing that they are who they say they are and the only way to be certain of that is through picture verification. Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to villify people who are not verified on this site, as you can see from my friends list I have many non verified members. However, those people who are not verified will always be questioned in the back of my mind as to being real until I get some satisfaction of them being true (ie webcam or through this site). I understand that may sound paronoid to you, but I've had too much experience with fakes out in the wide world of web not to be. Anyways mate, hope you don't think I'm picking on you, I'm not. I'm just trying to get you to understand where I'm coming from.
Swift
I do understand your position, and look mate what I get from reading is that you may have had some bad times elsewhere on other sites, well that can be expected I guess, but I do not do the other site things, nor do I do the chat rooms thing, just my call, and we have had discussions here so I guess maybe I/we should be who we say are, fact is I wrote you a long message the other day and went to send it and BAM it was gone, guess I timed the system out as it said I had to be signed in to do that. so message lost. I don't think your paronoid, sounds to me like you are just being careful, but hey I consider you to be who you are and I respect that, some people will do things in their own time and there own way, and I am one of them, when I feel comfortable enough then I will conseed and follow suit but I'm not there yet.
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