Thanks Alnudecpl,
I don't have so much trouble with the menu's and well, I know a lot of the cam stuff is just people being people. Not a lot you can do about all of the silliness. I also would like to say, that I have run a board before and I know that it is tough to manage one, especially once you start getting people. I have seen TT1 bounce people for the right reasons. I should temper my comments above by saying that I understand the situation and I am not expecting a sudden fix. But I am confused about the pictures.
thanks,
Jerry
I've tried. The admin offers two ways to get certified. One is to be in the chat room when he is in the chat room. (very frustrating he's never there) The other is to send him naked pics of yourself. Well my wife doesn't mind sitting in the hot tub naked with friends but is not comfortable sending pics of her self over the internet to strangers. So I signed in as a male who was married and sent my pics as directed. Not good enough for the admin. So I am not certified. It's damn frustrating. I had high hopes for this site but it seems like the admin only wants to see my wife naked.
Camp, don't get too frustrated, I'm willing to bet dollars to dohnuts that it was an honest mistake. Did you send an e-mail to the site managers (look for the contact button on the bottom of the screen) explaining the situation? Do that and I'm sure it will get straightened out in no time.
Al, this sit you mention, what was wrong with it that prompted you to come here? If you don't mind my asking?
Yeah, I don't really like the format of the forums either, Al, it should be most recent post first, not last. However. you don't need to go through every page. Just scrolll to the bottom of the thread and go to the last page. If that page is blank, hit back on your brouser and go to the second last page. :)
As far as how busy the boards are, they are pretty dead. However, that is up to us as posters to change. I think the site has done all it can to encourage people to post, so, we as a community need to do that. ;)
I do think that you, JR and most of the other people with negative feed back, do have legitimate concerns, but I don't think anybody should be giving up on this site. Maybe it's because I come from Nudistspace/friends (can anybody say shit hole? lol), but I truely believe that this site is absolutely the best free thing going. Does it have problems, of course it does, it is only a few months old afterall. Patience, I'm sure things will come together in time.
I agree Swift. And I am not really giving up, more of a standback and see where this leads situation. I don't mean my comments to be really negative, just more interogative. Maybe I am just getting old, but I don't understand the idea of having a nudist web site and then putting up pictures like that. I am easily confused....lol Oh well, time will tell.
Thanks
Jerry
taking a couple photos of yourself holding a sign proves nothing other than the fact you are willing to compromise your dignity in order to obtain greater access to chatrooms or photos or whatever nirvana you imagine you'll find.
it doesn't prove that you are not a creep, pervert, or photo-stealer. personally i am happy to use my webcam in chat so that people can see that i am indeed a 30 something, pasty-white out of shape guy. but i'm not going to send the admin of this or any other site a compromising photo for them to hold on file for as long as they choose, to do with what they choose......pin them to their dormroom notivce board for all we know.
there are better ways for sites to establish the credibility of users.
I simply cannot agree with you Swifthawk that this is definitely the best free thing going. I could certainly name you one naturist social networking site that was set up after this one, was set up much better, and has admins that respond really impresively quickly to members'queries and suggestions for improvements. Itfrankly was well aheadof this one from the start, continues to be and has members I feel more confident about asa whole. I havehad concerns from ths start about how little guidelines and checks were in force,apart from the Certified thing, which seemed to be thought to be the answer to everything. Also,some of the initial advice struck me as at best naive and not really in touch with naturism. It has improved in stages, but admin do need to be more responsive and it has some way to go. I continue to hold a membershipand do hope it improves, but I am not currentlyencouraged to become particularly participative. I would like to see it improve and become a really good and safe place, because there clearly are some great people here. And we should not want any naturist site to be seen as any place for those with wrong motives. We all know though that there are quite a few out there.
Unigirl - You have made some valid points and I can say that I do agree with you, but in looking I find that you do not even have a profile filled out, and that is one of the things that bugs me the most, you know about us but we know nothing about you. I may have come across to Swift and others as being a bit negitive, I would liketo see improvements in this site, but for some reason I am missing the Admins position, I can not think of taking on a site such as this with out some help to man the things that need to be taken care of. Maybe I am missing it, but I don't do the cam thing nordo I like to hang in the chat room, I have been in there just to see who is on and what is going on. I really see no need to hold some sign to get me what, we know who we are, I didn't put things in our profile because I felt like writing or add the places we have been, we have been there and I can tell you about everone of them, and that is more than nothing in a profile. You mentioned another site, Ihave been to others and seems like they all follow the same pattern and find they are just not suited to what we would like.
Jones made so very interesting points, and I am sort of like Jerry and taking a lay back and see, I have made true on my claim that if you want to be friends you had better have a profile if not then I will deny you, think I am going to do a small note to send them after wards telling them why they were denyed.
Swift has some ideas I am sure, but how can anything get done if no one is doing it?? am Iout in left feild with this, like Jerry said takes some doing to run a site like this but you got to run it not turn away from it, I would like ot see improvements but when are they going ot happen, well I check this site every day but I do not hang around here, got things to do and there are several topics Iam answeringto because they are of interest, how do you make it better if you can not find anyone to do the work?
Been a lot of good things said here on this topic, To be True or not to be True, that is the question, it is goingto take more than holding a sign to make this better.
DAMN I hate it when I time this out and can send it.......
I simply cannot agree with you Swifthawk that this is definitely the best free thing going. I could certainly name you one naturist social networking site that was set up after this one, was set up much better, and has admins that respond really impresively quickly to members'queries and suggestions for improvements. Itfrankly was well aheadof this one from the start, continues to be and has members I feel more confident about asa whole. I havehad concerns from ths start about how little guidelines and checks were in force,apart from the Certified thing, which seemed to be thought to be the answer to everything. Also,some of the initial advice struck me as at best naive and not really in touch with naturism. It has improved in stages, but admin do need to be more responsive and it has some way to go. I continue to hold a membershipand do hope it improves, but I am not currentlyencouraged to become particularly participative. I would like to see it improve and become a really good and safe place, because there clearly are some great people here. And we should not want any naturist site to be seen as any place for those with wrong motives. We all know though that there are quite a few out there.
Unigirl, what is this website that you speak of? I have been to many different nudist sites over the years and so far this one is one of the best, inspite of the recent absence of the admins. So, if you wouldn't mind posting a link here or emailing it to me, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
No digital cam, no webcam (I'm poor and have no privacy). Plus I think the "true nudist" label is divisive -- it allows some people to feel superior to others, which seems to work against the freedom and tolerance nudists like to believe about themselves.
I feel your pain mate, I woudln't have a webcam or a camera ifthey weren't given to me.
I have to disagree with you blue, about the divisevness issue. I haven't run into anybody who was certified that held a holier than thou attitude towards people who weren't.Hehe...If there are people like that, then they have some serious issues to resolve, as this is only some stupid website. Obviously you have to agree with me, as I'm a certified user. BOW TO THE MASTER!!!
"Also, TT1 has uploaded a lot of pictures of naked people. Some of those pictures are questionable, like the girl on the float with her legs spread wide. I have trouble believing that A) all of those pretty girls are really nudists and B) that one guy actually knows that many nudists. No offense, but I have been a nudist for 20 years and I A) don't know that many nudists and B) the reality is that we are all not that pretty. At least part of real nudism is body acceptance. I don't see a lot of support for that when all the women posted by the owner are all rather pretty. Imagine what kind of standard that sets for all the other women. I think that somewhat kills the "true nudist" idea and puts exclusions on reality, which is very anti-real-nudists. Not to mention the fact that the nudist community is rather tilted to the male side, there being a rather large percentage of males vs. a small percentage of females. Check out a real nudist site like www.netnude.com. So, I am trying to make the best of this place, but it's hard not to laugh when there are 22 guys in the chat room, no women, 10 of them have cameras on themselves and at least 3 of the cameras are pointing at their crotch's. I think that alone attests to the "genuine-ness" of this place being "true nudists"" So, maybe my outline above is sound in theory, but then, I'm loosing the drive to participate. Most of the people on here don't post in the forums and don't say much. So it's been kinda boring. Thanks Jerry Happy Nuding!
I have to agree Jerry, I wondered why all those pictures were there, I am thinking they are Web pictures from other places, just not the type you would see at any venue, and for some reason with all the pictures that are being posted, and no protection from being lifted, some one is going to have a large pitcher gallery.
Like you I am trying to make the best of this site and so far I find I spend far too much time just trying to navagate back and forth to search things, the chat room is ok, and have seen as you implied and more there, just not my thing, we are couple so rather be looking for couple friends. The forums is another hard one, as the topics get longer so do the pages and to get to the last post you have to go through every page, the groups is a mess, I tried to start one to see what options you had and you don't, so you have to check all the time to see if you got any activity, and I do not see much activity on any of them, i would not be surprised if most have just moved on or just do not bother with them. So like you I am sort of "I'm loosing the drive to participate", I wonder is their something on this site somewhere I may have missed that can tell me just who TT1 is?, do we really know? and am starting to question it because of those who have expressed the fact that they can not get answers, I belong to a nudist site that is like no other, and you will always get a responce from the Admin or the Mods and also where their presance is known to you, here I have to wonder if maybe some 23 year old whip went and started a nudist board and just let it run ramped? I know that is not the case or do I?, just that I am seeing more Negitive than Positive, a lot of people with a lot of good ideas but no one to fix them, as far as the topic goes, I will remain "Not to be True" feel there is no gain in the matter. This topic has gotten interesting to say the least and I am sure I will get my butt flamed, but we are all intitled to our opnions good or bad.
Our fealess leader is on Facebook and I've ask him to be on my Friend list. When he responds to I'll ask him to comment on some of these issues.
I'm sorry, but I don't see what you guys are talking about with TT1's pic's on the gallery. I counted 3 or 4 that would be questionable I guess, but they aren't overly rude or anything. At least not in my opinion. Sure they look like they were taken from other websites, but is that wrong?
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