Just to add, having a nude mandatory or obligatory policy at a club or resort, keeps the "clothing optional" option limited. The clothing optional policies were in place to give newbies time to adjust to total nudity, NOT to remain clothed or covered their entire stay or even after membership. Far too many clothed people at nude clubs and resorts nowadays. At times, the clothed outnumber the nudes.
At our club, many of the residents will remain clothed for no apparent reason. We've asked many of them and they actually said, "the novelty wore off!" It was apparent that they saw what they did and bought into as some fad or trend, and they didn't care to partake anymore. They, however, go naked at their sites, in their yards or while working around their units but not so much in the common areas like the pool, pool deck and rec areas.
It's our hope that once we sell this house and move into a much smaller place, like a condo, we'll go to the club, find a unit that one of these people live in and buy it cheap! hahaha
Just to add, having a nude mandatory or obligatory policy at a club or resort, keeps the "clothing optional" option limited. The clothing optional policies were in place to give newbies time to adjust to total nudity, NOT to remain clothed or covered their entire stay or even after membership. Far too many clothed people at nude clubs and resorts nowadays. At times, the clothed outnumber the nudes.At our club, many of the residents will remain clothed for no apparent reason. We've asked many of them and they actually said, "the novelty wore off!" It was apparent that they saw what they did and bought into as some fad or trend, and they didn't care to partake anymore. They, however, go naked at their sites, in their yards or while working around their units but not so much in the common areas like the pool, pool deck and rec areas.It's our hope that once we sell this house and move into a much smaller place, like a condo, we'll go to the club, find a unit that one of these people live in and buy it cheap! hahaha
I know that some clothing optional clubs are nudity only in the pool and hot tubs, and sometimes the deck.
Apparently, the one you belong to is not one of them.
Have you ever considered living full time at a clothing optional resort?
I know that some clothing optional clubs are nudity only in the pool and hot tubs, and sometimes the deck.Apparently, the one you belong to is not one of them.Have you ever considered living full time at a clothing optional resort?
Our club began and had always been clothing optional, meaning, after an adjustment period, you would be required to be nude at all times. As time passed and management changed, along with board member changes, so did that policy. There still is an unenforced policy about clothing optional being an adjustment period but is obviously not adhered to.
Yes, we have seriously considered living full time at our club. The one drawback was that our friends would never visit. It meant that we'd always have to leave and visit them or get dressed and meet someplace clothed. That wasn't a kill all, but we still felt that if they were real friends and already knew of our nudist life, they'd make the effort. Luckily, our daughters, sons in law and most of the grandkids said that they would come visit.
The idea now is that once we sell this home, we'll find a condo/townhome and have enough money to also buy a place at our club. We would split our time between an inside and limited outside nudist life at the condo and spend days/weeks/months at the club and live nude the entire time. There are places for sale, currently, we're just not there yet.
AndyDi, our resort doesn't have places come up for sale very often. Every resort is different and surely goes through cycles when there are more available to buy or when there are none to be had. When my partner bought this parkmodel there were six different units up for sale - something that hadn't happened since this section of the resort was completed, and having that many open hasn't happened since. It was nice to have the 'pick of the litter' for sure. Once the selling began the other five units sold pretty fast, and bear in mind that that moment did happen near the beginning of the pandemic, something which changed a lot of the dynamics - nude resorts were not immune to the nutsy crap that happened during that dark time.
My advice is to hurry up and make the transition to getting yourself a place inside of a nude resort - you will not regret it, except for waiting so long before making it happen. Everything comes at its own pace, but if you see the opportunity, realize it may move outrageously quick. (S)he who hesitates... Seize the day, as they say! Places here at White Tail get snapped up fast now, with so many people trying to join in on the simple beauty of living clothes-free. Covid-19 did horrible things to this world, but the positive side of its terrible cost comes in the way of people's attitudes shifting into seeking out new experiences, nudism being one of those things many people began to look into more seriously.
Clothing optional is fraught with pitfalls. We are nudist here, even though some still choose to wear things when weather says they should be bare. Ideas change, feelings alter, and shifting attitudes are inevitable in the individual mind. One problem this can tend to cause is perceived favoritism. The rules should be applied evenly for all. CO inserts an air of the individual, opening up an inappropriate niche for a person's property to be flaunted, possibly putting them into the mindset that the nudity is actually up to them - specifically where it shouldn't be. I feel as though by making garments 'optional', it immediately takes away a lot of the purpose that undergirds nudism. By leaving behind clothes fully, allowing not these trappings of prestige and status from a textile society mired in its own self-importance, something that has no place at a nude resort, everyone benefits.
I hope the time comes soon where you can make the next step, to sell your present place and move on to be able to go for months without cloth on your skin. We can attest to the fact that full time nudism is an incredible thing to bring into your life, though it comes with some downside. Be prepared to start feeling as though clothes bring an almost allergic reaction when they are required, once you've gotten a taste of total disrobing! Neither of you will want to go to the store when it gets to that point. Don't fight over it! Switch it up and keep the peace. Keep track on a calendar or something. And shop smart to keep the trips out to clothed market to a minimum.
And where's my nude Aldi?
Clothing optional is fraught with pitfalls. We are nudist here, even though some still choose to wear things when weather says they should be bare. Ideas change, feelings alter, and shifting attitudes are inevitable in the individual mind.
Very well articulated. As usual. :)
The thought: "Well... I don't really feel like walking around naked today. I'll just wear my sarong for now..." is in of itself rather innocuous. But when it is combined with a growing demographic of folks covering up; it can lead to an equally growing disinterest in "walking around naked." My wife and I did start out at C/O resorts, and she absolutely got "stuck" in that mindset.
Going to LOTW hit the "reset button" when it comes her views on "covering up." The first time she went she elected to stay covered, out of habit; and would later say that she felt she had "dropped the ball." Remaining covered, when everyone else was nude, actually made her more self-conscious than if she had been naked herself. So her motivation upon our return, was to embrace remaining nude. We consider that trip to be our "real" first trip there.
It seems to be a theme at LOTW with newbies, who even though still modest, will often prefer to "rip the band-aid" off rather than stand out as "shy newbies."
Some would say: "Well it seems people are actually forcing themselves to stay naked." My wife explained this, rather well, to her sister. In a nutshell: "It just becomes natural." After she leaves all her clothes in the car and proceeds to spend the day naked, she has no thought at any point of covering up (unless we stay late and it drops below 65 degrees). It really is that simple. And the reason why we'd always rather go to LOTW.
As long as the focus of nudism is your state of dress it will always been niche community. All the past leaders of the naturist movement (including the recently deceased Morley Schloss) understood this and always brought something more to the table to attract and expand the engagement of the mainstream. When the focus is on dress you attract the people who are already predisposed. Every venue is free to make their own rules and live with the consequences.
My home base is clothing optional and this summer there were all kinds of people there and we keep the lid on the weirdos and lookie loos by just following a simple rule. Your behavior is your passport if you be have inappropriately staring ogling people you are or if repeat offender asked to leave. At the discretion of their parents children are clothing optional. It feels so much more democratic to have to let people have the choice. A friend of mine who is a regular there invited her adult son and wife who are very religious to visit. She wanted them to see where she spends here weekends in summer. They accepted and came and stayed for the weekend they did spend much time clothes free but they were exposed the the naturist way of life and were accepting of my friends way of life. The seed was planted. Its on them where it goes from there. JAT
I've been to both LOTW and TLR (as well as other venues in the Midwest). My wife and I ultimately chose LOTW; but had it not been more convenient for us to go there during COVID, who knows, TLR might have been our resort of choice.
Some things I like about TLR, some things not so much. Same with LOTW. You can't have everything.
The "obvious" distinction between the 2 resorts is one is completely clothing-optional; the other is not.
I personally have not seen a distinctive difference in attendance between the two. Notwithstanding special events.
Yes times are changing and resorts are closing at an alarming rate. My daughter basically grew up at Bell Acres (GA); it is no longer a nudist resort. We used to meet up with friends at Cedar Creek (SC); it is no longer a nudist resort. But to think that TLR, or LOTW, has a better chance of enduring over the other reflects a personal bias, and lack of understanding as to why Millennial/Zoomer interest in resort nudism is waning. It doesn't matter to them whether a resort is clothing-optional or nudity-expected; rustic or commercial. They're just not interested in nudist resorts. Naked gaming with friends at home, or traveling to the nude beaches in Spain is the nudist experience they're going to be more interested in.
We should all support AANR resorts - while they're still around - and bemoan any resort that doesn't survive. Regardless of whether you're a fan or TLR or a fan of LOTW.
Just a thought.
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