Body Mods and nudity
How acceptable are Body Mods in the general nudist population. I am new to the big picture having only practiced nudity with a small social group (35 to 45) locally. We have lots of piercings and tatoo's that vary per individual (some none, some a few, nobodys overdone). My favorite mod and the one this question is about involves genital vacuum pumping. I enjoy having my ball sack pumped to a large size. Would other nudists consider this freakish? I haven't posted any pictures as yet until I feel comfortable with how I will be perceived. I will be glad to post pictures before pumping but pumped is more the real me. Please guide me so I am not out of place. Thanks
I think that I would be more concerned about the potential long term medical damage that pumping can do to eitheryour testicles or penis. To me pumpingdoes notachieve anything close to a natural look andthus becomes just an obvious exageration. I have a friend who is nicely endowed put still pumps to achieve what he perceives to be a more masculine look which in reality turns out to be rather grotesque.
I'd agree with Nudrunr too, but I havent' the time to read his whole post! (aside: Nud, ya gotta summarize for the rest of us!) I have never even heard of pumping testicles! Mine change in size by the hour. Whether I'm hot or cold or active, it never even occurs to me to worry about their size. One woman at a nude pool party told me I had a small penis. OK, the pool waspretty nippy! I just told her that, ya know what sweetheart? They're made to change! It seems pretty silly to say that when they're pumped, it's the real you. C'mon, relax, take off your clothes and stop staring at yourself in the mirror.
excellent response, the light has come on for me. I see your point clearly. In my case, I haven't been pierced and should I get any genital jewelry I will only display it in an appropriate setting. Not here. As far as pumping "large" I understand again the attention, negative and otherwise, it might draw. Again in my case, I doubt anyone would know I was pumped as I only pump enough to appear normal size.
Thanks a great deal for all the responses, I am so glad I asked the question as I have good picture of the scope of the site. I will enjoy being a member with all the wonderful people on here.
Baldwin
How acceptable are Body Mods in the general nudist population. I am new to the big picture having only practiced nudity with a small social group (35 to 45) locally. We have lots of piercings and tatoo's that vary per individual (some none, some a few, nobodys overdone). My favorite mod and the one this question is about involves genital vacuum pumping. I enjoy having my ball sack pumped to a large size. Would other nudists consider this freakish? I haven't posted any pictures as yet until I feel comfortable with how I will be perceived. I will be glad to post pictures before pumping but pumped is more the real me. Please guide me so I am not out of place. Thanks
Hiya Baldwin, welcome.
I'm probably one of the more avant garde nudists on here and even I would advise against pumping pictures (and never pump on the beach either). Let's be honest, 'pumped' is not the 'real' you - it is the pumped you, pumping and all that goes with it is more suited to a fetish club, acceptable environment and all that.
Now piercing is a different matter. The only ones I personally have are my ears so I can wear pretty earrings, nevertheless, nose studs, eyebrow, lip, tongue, nipple, navel, genital, labia, (yes brace yourselves people the labia is not the genitals - lord preserve us from people who have no idea of anatomy) ... are essentially no different from my earrings - it is simply a matter of 'geography'. Piercing has become a 'socially acceptable' fashion these days no matter what my personal view of it may be and the removal of the inserted item for any length of time can result in the piercing 'closing over' with attendant problems for the wearer.
In the UK and Europe I meet many fellow nudists sporting attractive piercing jewelry - and jewelry is all it is regarded as. At the end of the day it is a matter of perception. Think rationally about it for a moment. Person A wears a piercing because they think it looks pretty. Person B sees the piercing and immediately connects it with sexual provocation. Who is the more sexually preoccupied? Remember - one can be negatively preoccupied as well as positively preoccupied and that can tell you a whole lot more about a person than they generally want you to know.
It puts me in mind of the old old joke thats been around in my line of work for years. A psychologist is performing the Rorschach inkblot test on a patient. The first card is shown and the patient says "It's a man masturbating". The second card is shown and the patient says "It's a woman masturbating". Third card "Two people having sex". Fourth "It's a sex threesome". This continues throughout the whole set until the psychologist wearily puts the cards down and says to the patient "Your problem is you are obviously sexually obsessed". The patient looks indignant and replies " Me? ME? You're the one with the dirty pictures!"
Love n stuff
Rudie
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Quoting UKRUDEGIRL "I'm probably one of the more avant garde nudists on here and even I would advise against pumping pictures (and never pump on the beach either). Let's be honest, 'pumped' is not the 'real' you - it is the pumped you, pumping and all that goes with it is more suited to a fetish club, acceptable environment and all that. Now piercing is a different matter. The only ones I personally have are my ears so I can wear pretty earrings, nevertheless, nose studs, eyebrow, lip, tongue, nipple, navel, genital, labia, (yes brace yourselves people the labia is not the genitals - lord preserve us from people who have no idea of anatomy) ... are essentially no different from my earrings - it is simply a matter of 'geography'. Piercing has become a 'socially acceptable' fashion these days no matter what my personal view of it may be and the removal of the inserted item for any length of time can result in the piercing 'closing over' with attendant problems for the wearer. In the UK and Europe I meet many fellow nudists sporting attractive piercing jewelry - and jewelry is all it is regarded as. At the end of the day it is a matter of perception. Think rationally about it for a moment. Person A wears a piercing because they think it looks pretty. Person B sees the piercing and immediately connects it with sexual provocation. Who is the more sexually preoccupied? Remember - one can be negatively preoccupied as well as positively preoccupied and that can tell you a whole lot more about a person than they generally want you to know" Not so avante-garde there UKRUDEGIRL. A bit disappointed in your views on this one. A couple of things ... first, nut sack inflating is more common than you might think, at least inN America. Your comment "and never pump on the beach either"is without justification and quite a non avante-gardestatement. You will see inflations at public nude beaches., both breast and nut sack (hehehe)I back up this statement from visits to SanOnofre in CA, Haulover in Fla,and Hanlons Point in Canada. Its a personal decision. If Baldwin likes the look/feel, accepts any inherent risk, then its a non issue. Its not for me, but hey, to each their own. Who are we to judge. Now Im curious ...do you alsobelieve in"the real you"thing with respect to implants? ... or smoothies?. Second,your 'closing over' comment isjust poppycock. Most genital piercings that have been in place forsay ... more than a year,do not cause reinsertion issues if reinserted within 8-12 hours.Plenty of time to enjoy any'no piercings' nude venue. This we know from experience. And third, "Person A wears a piercing because they think it looks pretty. Person B sees the piercing and immediately connects it with sexual provocation" WHO CARESwhat Person B thinks, who cares about Person B's perception... really now.If there's an issue, its Person B's issue and they might need to consult a therapist. As long as Person A is not sporting a swollen sex organ, its a NON-ISSUE. Oh, one more thing .... anatomically speaking, the clitoral hood is the setting for the notorious clit ring, not the labia. And no , the clit hood is not a sex organ, nor is the foreskin. However, based on sensation alone, many of us wouldargue that fact .... hehehe!
Oh dear, I am sorry you feel disappointed with my post WilandAnna - it may be that it lost something in the translation or perhaps it is my fault for my tendency towards wry British humour and understatement - permit me to try to gently explain.
The popularity of 'pumping' is not at issue in my post. My reference to 'real you' was perhaps too oblique for some. I was referring to the 'real you' which is the actual internal person - as in, the actual place of human existence - the mind. The corporeal body, the physical bit that the mind inhabits and steers is essentially a vehicle for the consciousness, we can lose many of our extremities which, whilst proving distressing, does not alter who we actually 'are'. Who are we then? Well, Ren Descartes postulated "Je pense, donc je suis" (I think, therefore I am) and, without going into great philosophical discourse on the Cognito, the concept of 'real you' is about ones sum total of knowledge base, life experiences, memories (accurate and inaccurate) coupled with the manner in which we process and express our 'personal data'. This gives us our belief systems, our prejudices, our tolerances, our emotional responses, our sense of self worth, our level of evaluation ability, our inhibitions etc., etc. These in turn give us our individual behavioural characteristics, dictate how we perceive and process new information and ultimately interact with the rest of the cosmos.
Hopefully, that has clarified my use of the term 'real you' and you will deduce from this more detailed explanation that your assumption that I was making pejorative or negative comment regarding any form of body adornment or modification is in error. Thus your question "do you also believe in "the real you" thing with respect to implants? ... or smoothies?" becomes somewhat apocryphal. There are myriad reasons for wishing to modify or adorn ones body. Some motives are psychological, some social, some sexual and it has been going on since prehistoric times. In extremis it can present problems in certain cases, for example - addiction to cosmetic surgery, obsessive compulsion to being tattooed, mortification of the flesh, repeated cutting of the skin causing scarring etc., but that is at the far side of what is a very broad spectrum most of which is problem free and serves to fulfil a felt need within the individual.
OK, now to take your other points in turn:
"I would advise against pumping pictures (and never pump on the beach either)" In the context of my sentence 'pumping and pump' are used as verbs - that means they refer to the activity, not the after effect. You appear to have read it as "I would advise against pumped pictures (and never be pumped on the beach either)" - see the difference? Had I intended to make the second variant then that is what I would have written. A good illustration of perceptual differences I think. I am making my own assumption that your examples of 'inflations at public nude beaches' refers to the effects and not the actual activity of pumping (verb), on the basis that such activity performed in public might not be well received by others - and 'acceptable conduct' does seem to be a popular topic here.
You say "... your 'closing over' comment is just poppycock. Most genital piercings, that have been in place for say ... more than a year, do not cause reinsertion issues if reinserted within 8-12 hours." If you actually read what I wrote you will note I said "... and the removal of the inserted item for any length of time can result in the piercing 'closing over' with attendant problems for the wearer." You have translated the phrase "any length of time" which is an indeterminate period into a specific "... within 8-12 hours" which again is not what was written. Also I used the term '... can result ...' not '... will result ...'. In other words I would gently suggest my ''closing over' comment' is, in fact, accurate as it stands, it would however become 'poppycock' if I were to allow your amendment regarding the time period - which I do not.
I wrote: "Person A wears a piercing because they think it looks pretty. Person B sees the piercing and immediately connects it with sexual provocation. Who is the more sexually preoccupied?" The illustration here is of two points of view that are empirically known to exist - both have been aired at great length on these very forum boards. The points are followed by a general question "Who is the more sexually preoccupied?" You have offered an answer "WHO CARES what Person B thinks, who cares about Person B's perception ... really now. If there's an issue, its Person B's issue and they might need to consult a therapist. As long as Person A is not sporting a swollen sex organ, its a NON-ISSUE." That is your opinion and is equally as valid as anyone elses - you could be right about the therapist and with regard to the swollen sex organ I presume you mean aroused rather than pumped - given your previous stance on pumping.
Your response does however beg the question "WHO CARES" and a look around the forums, plus the rules of 'no piercings' nude venues' you yourself mention, would tend to suggest quite a lot of folk care, and for them it has become an issue because of their perceptual association of piercings with sex. As I further said, in defense of piercing I might point out; "In the UK and Europe I meet many fellow nudists sporting attractive piercing jewelry - and jewelry is all it is regarded as." - this may be as a result of different cultural mors of course (after all, the UK did manage to unload most of it's dour and puritannical element onto the colonies of the New World back in 1620! - Note: That was a British joke).
As regards your reference to the clitorus you might notice I did not actually refer directly to that piercing - I referred to the practice of piercing the labia and that is exactly what I meant. Google may be your friend here.
So, I trust the foregoing has served to bring a little more order to the confusion that your initial reading of my other post appears to have generated for you.
Love n stuff,
Rudie
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