NudeInMAUltra Super Nudist Level #2Joined: 10/19/2009Location: Berkshires, Massachusetts6330 postsCongratulations to all who have posted to this thread using quote nesting and have not fallen prey to the quote anomaly. That's unusual.RE: the topic, writing as an admin and a mod on other sites, this old hand is against it. One of the primary attractions of Web forums is the immediacy. It's not on-the-fly like chat, but it IS a fairly fast response time. Universal post moderation poses issues, e.g.: A person having a problem with the site asks a question, but must wait for a mod to approve it before it is posted the question is unasked and the problem is unresolved until then; When it is posted, any response is delayed, and people who are responding do not know if others already posted a solution; The OP's reply and the success or failure of the solutions offered is delayed; Conversations between members via the forum are pretty much stymied, and they might as well use email as the forum; If there are no mods logged in, posts go into limbo until one shows up; Personal conflicts between mods and members could result in letting posts sit for a few days, or deletion of posts without a comment; "Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera!" -- King Mongkut of SiamI've been on dozens of sites over the years, and never have I found one where posts require approval. A few limited posting privileges for newbies until they achieved a certain number of posts, but none required every post to be approved.With nearly 100,000 members, TN is a handful at the best of times. It is counterproductive to introduce bottlenecks where they aren't required.
It is THE answer. Why post more when he has answered your questions
How's that for a comment?
If the pre-approval system existed, it would have never been posted.
I understand your perspective, but with a pre-approval system, nothing gets posted until....
EVERYTHING is unnecessarily delayed, and the workload on whoever is moderating is increased by
many, many orders of magnitude.
Only a portion of postings need any attention at all. With pre-approval, ALL postings must get
attention whether needed or not, and most don't.
On a properly moderated site, very, very few postings will require any attention.
SO, preapproval amounts to killing a mosquito with a neuclear bomb.
Overkill, and will do too much damage to any and everything that really needs no attention at all.
If the pre-approval system existed, it would have never been posted.
I understand your perspective, but with a pre-approval system, nothing gets posted until....
EVERYTHING is unnecessarily delayed, and the workload on whoever is moderating is increased by
many, many orders of magnitude.
Only a portion of postings need any attention at all. With pre-approval, ALL postings must get
attention whether needed or not, and most don't.
On a properly moderated site, very, very few postings will require any attention.
SO, preapproval amounts to killing a mosquito with a neuclear bomb.
Overkill, and will do too much damage to any and everything that really needs no attention at all.
I agree with you, but I suggested solutions to some issues we might have if the site will set thepre-control system. What do you think about them?
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I agree with you, but I suggested solutions to some issues we might have if the site will set the pre-control system. What do you think about them?
Pre-approval creates a tremendous amount of overhead work, and is by default not a great idea in the vast majority of cases.
I'll conceed that there are a few individuals that, like another site that I do run, as well as a mailing list, do need pre-moderation, as they just will not learn.
Experience suggests that the software quarantine whatever postings by these very few, yet allow everything else, much like the artificially intelligent spam filter I wrote. The work load to check quarantined posts is still a tremendous burden, but is sometimes preferable to outright banning of those individuals that do sometimes contribute something of value.
Still, experience suggests that treating the flamers as they appear "in post" as we say in "the biz" is a tremendously more efficient way to go.
As the saying goes: I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. We have a free and open Forum. Yes we get some stupid entries, but that is far out weighed by the thoughtful ones. When you propose to limit peoples' right to free speech you are getting on that slippery slope that leads to tyranny. I'm willing to put up with a few dumb posts in the cause of free and open expression, but I reserve the right to be critical of the oneswith whichI do not agree.
Well, no actually, we don't have a free and open forum. This site is a privately owned property, and as such, the owner makes the rules of what is and isn't allowed. Freedom of speech and the 1st Amendment do not apply to privately owned media, only to a government.
Yes, indeed. It is a private website. You follow its rules, you are welcome. You don't follow them, go somewhere else.
Well, no actually, we don't have a free and open forum. This site is a privately owned property, and as such, the owner makes the rules of what is and isn't allowed. Freedom of speech and the 1st Amendment do not apply to privately owned media, only to a government.
Yes, indeed. It is a private website. You follow its rules, you are welcome. You don't follow them, go somewhere else.
My children learned those rules years ago. They decided to stay.
They were very careful when the door closed behind them.
Hi again folks,
I think a site called truenudists needs to be pre-moderated. This site's forums need to be pre-controlled.
There is another main reason of my suggestion: A website like this one may attract many perverts who might post an abusive thread.
My goal is to make the forums more into the topic of the website, without any kind of troll, a website where trolls and pervert people are not welcome.
Kind regards,
Jeff
NudeInMAUltra Super Nudist Level #2Joined: 10/19/2009Location: Berkshires, Massachusetts6330 postsCongratulations to all who have posted to this thread using quote nesting and have not fallen prey to the quote anomaly. That's unusual.RE: the topic, writing as an admin and a mod on other sites, this old hand is against it. One of the primary attractions of Web forums is the immediacy. It's not on-the-fly like chat, but it IS a fairly fast response time. Universal post moderation poses issues, e.g.: A person having a problem with the site asks a question, but must wait for a mod to approve it before it is posted the question is unasked and the problem is unresolved until then; When it is posted, any response is delayed, and people who are responding do not know if others already posted a solution; The OP's reply and the success or failure of the solutions offered is delayed; Conversations between members via the forum are pretty much stymied, and they might as well use email as the forum; If there are no mods logged in, posts go into limbo until one shows up; Personal conflicts between mods and members could result in letting posts sit for a few days, or deletion of posts without a comment; "Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera!" -- King Mongkut of SiamI've been on dozens of sites over the years, and never have I found one where posts require approval. A few limited posting privileges for newbies until they achieved a certain number of posts, but none required every post to be approved.With nearly 100,000 members, TN is a handful at the best of times. It is counterproductive to introduce bottlenecks where they aren't required.
It is THE answer. Why post more when he has answered your questions
How's that for a comment?
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