If circumcision supposedly reduces the risk of HIV infection, why does the United States have one of the highest HIV infection rates in the western world AND the highest circumcision rate in the western world? The facts refute the theory.
You raise an interesting point, I decided to check some facts. I take the view that HIV/AIDS is world wide and shouldn't be looked at in isolation.
Top 5 Countries highest number infected (million): South Africa (5.3), India (5.1), Nigeria (3.6), Zimbabwe (1.8), Tanzania (1.6)
Top 5 Countries highest percentage infected : Swaziland (26%), Botswana (23%), Lesotho (23%), Namibia (15%), Zimbabwe (15%)
The suggestion that the US has one of the highest circumcision rates in the world can be refuted by the fact that countries like Zimbabwe, India, Botswana, Swaziland, Namibia and Lesotho have less than 20% males circumcised, they appear in the top 5 list.
Researchers have found that circumcision lowers HIV risk in men, circumcision dramatically changes the bacterial communities of the penis, What does that mean? As i understand it, basically when circumcised, the penile bacterial ecosystem changes and is reputed toprevents HIV infection in men and protects their female partners from vaginal infections, especially bacterial vaginosis.
I guess you can find any information on the net to support any side of the discussion, the figures supplied here are from 2011 reports.
I am glad i amcircumcised, but then again it is all a mater of preference. As long as you are comfortable and happy with what you have.
I said the US has one of the highest HIV infection rates in the western world and the highest routine circumcision rate in the western world. Let's compare Finland with the US. Finnish men are virtually all uncircumcised. Finland has an HIV infection rate of 0.05% of the population. In the US, the majority of men are circumcised. The US has an HIV infection rate of 0.43% of the population. That's quite a difference, and both are western, first world countries.
Your comparison is really at both ends of the spectrum. You're comparing Finland (pop 5.3M) with the USA (pop 315M) How about comparing like with like:Finland (pop 5.3M) - 0.05%Boznia/Hertz (pop 4.3M) - 0.01%, Croatia (pop 4.3M) - 0.02%, Czech Rep (pop 10.2M) - 0.02%, New Zealand (pop 4.1M) - 0.06%, Norway (pop 4.5M) - 0.09%. All countries are in the Western world and with similar population to Finland apart from Czech Rep.Source: https://hiv-stats.realclearworld.com/compare/56-83-85-103-105-118/New-Zealand-vs-Bosnia-and-Herzegovina-vs-Croatia-vs-Czech-Republic-vs-Finland-vs-Norway
Rather than selecting the whole of the US perhaps a comparison with a state with a similar population and ancestry like Minnesota (pop 5.3M) Ancestry (German, Nordic Countries, English, Irish, Czech) - HIV infection rate (0.08%)
Like I said data can be interpreted/presented to reflect any side of a discussion. As far as the issue of Circumcised preventing infection, I can only go by articles i have read, the underlying fact is that nothing has been proven conclusive.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=circumcision-penis-microbiome-hiv-infection
https://aids.about.com/od/hivprevention/a/circumcision.htm
@sixfeetfive:Thanks for your 2 cents - it's never too late to add.Glad to hear you're as satisfied with your circumcised state as I am, though you were done at birth and I in my middle-age! But our cultures differ a lot in that aspect, so it's not very strange. And I agree with you: It IS more aesthetically appealing to see an exposed penis-head than one hidden behind a trunk... ;-)
since i wasn't allowed to vote on being cut i thought i would voice my opposition to that fatal day that i was snipped, i have made several attempts at restoration ( lots of web sites) but it is a long process but may try again in the fall. my choice would be no !
I wish I wasn't cut. It wasn't my choice.
I was born in the US in 1949 so like the majority of boys born then I was circumcised. I don't remember having a foreskin so I don't miss what I didn't know I had. All the other boys in my class except one were also cut so I wasn't teased. I like the look of being circumcised, but if I weren't I would probably like that look also. I don't know if I would have been more sensitive if I were uncircumcised, but I am very happy with how sensitive I am right now. I am not going to waste time worrying about anything on my body that could be different that what it is right now. I am pretty happy with things the way they are.
since i wasn't allowed to vote on being cut i thought i would voice my opposition to that fatal day that i was snipped, i have made several attempts at restoration ( lots of web sites) but it is a long process but may try again in the fall. my choice would be no !
I am glad I was circumscribed. I find it is easier to keep clean, and I have not felt any disadvantages.
since i wasn't allowed to vote on being cut i thought i would voice my opposition to that fatal day that i was snipped, i have made several attempts at restoration ( lots of web sites) but it is a long process but may try again in the fall. my choice would be no !
no I am not happy I am cut-circumcised/I WISH I WASNT SO I COUD FEEL ALL 100% SENSITIVITY PLEASURE ,OUR PENISES WERE MADE FORE
thanks
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