Really the only way that I can see of clearing the site of dubious photos is to delete the lot and start again; with each upload being checked before being published. Although it would be an immense amount of work I can think of no other way, with the site set as it is with large amounts of photos unviewable by anyone except the TTs.
I really am not surprised that it has gone. This site has so many flaws that its unbelievable.
I have had pictures deleted that are deemed inappropriate, when they are not, yet, I can point anyone to a number of profiles where guys are stood there with a full on boner. I am not offended by an erection, probably as I am a bloke and also get them, but there is clearly something wrong with the people screening the pictures.
Also, if they want this site to be taken seriously, then they need to ensure that being 'Certified' means something.
There is nothing to stop a person getting certified by sending off their naked picture. Once certification has been agreed, you can delete those pictures and upload what the hell you like. So certified means what exactly? I have seen so may pictures on profiles on this site that have been taken off the internet.
I think that for those of us that have become certified, we should have those certification pictures as a permanent addition to your profile and they cannot be deleted. You can still select who sees them of course but how many people on here have a certification pictures that matches the face on the uploaded pictures?
I befriended a guy on here a while back, in his 20's, slim, great pictures. I spoke to him on webcam, he was in his late 40's at least and 5 times the size. He was certified!
Unless this site can sort out the basic securities in making sure that those that want to use it are for real and genuine, they stand little chance of being taken seriously.
Brian Spence is the competitor teamtrue1 is talking about. I was a member of his other two sites some time ago and yes lack of management and site features is a big problem. I'm just glad that I discovered TN and so is the reason I closed my accounts with Brian Spence sites. Keep up the good work TN, so far still the best nudist site in town.
Alexa rank for TN = 72,000Alexa rank for AANR = 419,000What's that tell you? The AANR perceive TrueNudists as a threat to their business and they don't want to promote, which is basically what their "Trusted" program is all about... you pay them $100 and they lend some of their credibility to you, but really, they have fewer visitors to their website than TrueNudists, so who needs who more?
AANR is an organization, TN is a social networking site for nudists. Not even equal. AANR does NOT feel threatened by an online site at all. I am a member of a variety of AANR programs as well as NOVA of TNS.
The trusted program IMHO is an interesting program to gain funds. If I had the available funds, I might have gotten that as well. The Good Housekeeping Seal is possibly the equivalent.
So, Cheri, I am not sure of your position as it relates to AANR rejecting TN. Do you think they were right to pull the approval without an effort to resolve the differences? Do you think there is political motivations regarding this Spence guy? I see your point regarding the TS site-that it doesn't look good, but it is a fairly prominent and clear avenue to redirect swingers from TN so that we have our site and they have theirs. While I'm sure that the TT's also saw it as a business opportunity, it seems to me that the motivation was initially to keep this site clean. I understand that some, including you, would not have taken that path; and that is fine, but do you think that TN is not cleaner than it was when the swingers were here? Doesn't the existence of TS provide for an opportunity to distinguish nudism from swinging?
The same way if any affiliation is severed such as when Sunnyrest lost its AANR affiliation but when it cleaned up its act was reinstated.
No political motivations IMHO but I've not as yet evolved to reading minds. :) He wants to promote nudism in the way that it should be promoted. I believe that's his motivation alone.
TS people are still here as are others who are less than what we want here. There was a thread that stated that they were not being tossed off here, but there was an option. If the profiles flagged were viewed and then acted upon in short order, it would make this site a whole lot better.
Who are the photo monitors? How many of them are there and how are they chosen?
The only photo monitors are Teamtrue1 and I, Teamtrue2. Teamtrue1 is the owner of the site. I am his wife. They have to abide by the rules TN enforces. Seeing as we now have over 100,000 users we added the flag feature to get users to help. There are old photos which were grandfathered in, and these can also be flagged if deemed inappropriate. With the hundreds of photos that we receive daily one or two may slip through our eyes. We really appreciate that our users help flag. You guys are amazing and do a great job at keeping the site clean. We appreciate it.
I compliment this site for the changes especially the pictures and in the chat room. Used to be we had the crotch shots appearing without looking for them. Now i don't doubt they are getting on, then I don't go looking where as an AANR official may go digging up dirt for their own protection. AANR has had its hands full keeping out of trouble and folks like my partner who loves our lifestyle will not participate here because of the past chance of perverted or harassing issues. If she once come online and seen a AANR logo here she would have some questions for our local AANR executive. She is on protecting integrity of nude lifestyle as many are - "one bad and your out". AANR - I agree has their own online interests. We may have to live with our past here in the future.
Well it's been an interesting ride, at first we were accepted into their "Trusted Website" program.Our application was approved and we were provided the "Trusted Seal". After just a few days ofa few of the "trustees of the board" complained and required us to remove it. I know that one ofour smaller competitors is friends with a lot of the people in AANR and in my opinion believethis may have influenced this decision.I was denied a reason for the dismissal and even a contact to discuss the matter with, until Ithreatened to notify my user base about the dismissal. I was contacted today by Jim Smock, AANR Executive Director, who told me the reason for the dismissal was because there were some pictures that he foundthat could be construed as provacative. There is always a challenge to keep the site clean, and I believe we do a pretty good job at moderating and removing these pictures, but without completely removing thepictures it's not possible to notice every misplaced hand. That said, I was happy to have at least been acknowledged and given a reason for the dismissal.The problem that haunts me after this, is not that our site does not conform to AANR's definition of nudism. It's that sites that face the same issues as us are allowed. It seems rather fishy to me that my competitorswho have the same difficulty as us in moderating pictures are allowed into the "Trusted Website" program. Our site has the most advanced moderation techniques, every single picture is seen by a moderator, andusers have the ability to flag anything that sneaks through, our competitors do not. When I asked how this waspossible, I was told it was not something that could be discussed. I'm not going to persue this any further.We've already been denied a chance to advertise with AANR in January, now the trusted website fees, andthey've already lost these 2 members, I hope that the money that they're turning down is for the right reason,and not just a friendly favor to our competitor.What are your thoughts on the matter?
If I was AANR, I wouldn't allow this site anywhere near my organization. This site is overflowing with fakes and porn. If the admins of TN would make just a small effort to make this site what it's supposed to be, they would probably get the blessings of AANR.
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