To Naturally and Kurt, all I can think to say is sarcasm here. It hardly requires any thought to figure out how far off the mark you guys are. Gays kiss each other FOR EXACTLY THE SAME REASON THAT ANYBODY DOES. Geez. Kurt, how can you think they just do it to offend? Does that mean that they are secretly straight and just pretending so they can cause a ruckus? I amUSED to men and women kissing so it doesn't offend. Most people are USED to clothed people so nude ones sometimes offend. If you are homophobic then it might scare you. But certainly, you are not USED to it so their kissing might shock you. It's just kissing. Chill out and as nudists, you should be ashamed of yourselves for judging people on your own personal biases. Don't bring your prejudices here or atleast, air them as a discussion and not as truths. You obviously don't know the truths in this matter. Meet some gay folks. Get to know them and then come back and tell us what you've discovered. When you love someone, you want to kiss them and if that person happens to be the same sex, then gosh, it just might follow that you'd still want to kiss them no matter what the narrowminded in the vicinity might think. Whoops, there goes the sarcasm, could only hold it back for so long.
We realize that a lot of gays show PDA for the same reason others do, but we have noticed that a lot do do it just for the shock factor. But then again we have been known to do things for the same reason. We hear lots of nudists say we should be accepting of otherslifestyles as we want others to be accepting of ours. But the same people frown upon other peoples lifestyles whether they be gay, swinging, or what ever else you are not accustomed to. We are used to seeing PDA and even a lot more and neither offend us. We also understand the need for discression in public venues, especialy when children are present and know how to act approprietely. Wealso understand that we are an even smaller minority than nudists alone and wonder if we would be given the same consideration others are being asked to give?
SoCal Nudists & More
Dont worry about what other people think they are probably jealous if it feels natural and good do it cuddling kissing and hugs are good for you Bob
Sex is good for you and feels goodtoo, but we understand it's not appropriate everywhere.
We have noticed that PDA at it's different levels is accepted very differently depending on the location and audience. Hugging and even kissing a friend hello at the beach is usually acceptable, but not so muchat workor in church. We both like PDA, both between us to express our love for one another as well as with friends to show our affection and appreciation for them. We will both hug friends and even people we meet for the first time, same sex or opposite,whether in a nude or textile environment. However we usually only kiss those of the opposite sexas isour preferance which is probably due to our upbringing. We act this way largely so we don't offend those around us, but this is a fine line, becuase we know there are people who are offended by us just being nude and we have no intention of stopping that. So, what to do? We think for the most part as long as we do what is legalin a particularenvironment we will do OK. We will also fight to defend our liberties so as not to loose them.
Effectionate couple in SoCal
If you cannot do something because you are nude that would be perfectly alright if you had clothes on, then what fun would it be to get nude?
Bingo, I find that we tend to draw lines when now we have no clothes vs when dressed. I was always raised that somethings are socially acceptable, and some are not, whether you are dressed or not does not change those socially acceptable behaviours.
know your audience I guess.
Well said Linda, I was hugging a new friend goodbye at a nudist resort and kissed her and someone yelled over that we were to stop that. It wasn't a big kiss! Geez, excuse me for living! We weren't grinding in the parking lot!
Oh well, takes all kinds!
It seems to me that once one gets past the idea that what you happen to be wearing, or not, equals sex, that it all becomes quite clear, and very easy. No, you don't show much at work, largely due to "sexual harassment" laws and exagerated "offense" to perfectly innocent things. I'm afraid these "protective" laws have done much harm to blur the lines in the minds of some, and so have the supposed "nudist etiquite" policies of some, and at some places.
As far as I'm concerned, what you happen to be wearing is completely irrelevant. Unfortunately, common sense is far too uncommon these days.
As far as I'm concerned, what you happen to be wearing is completely irrelevant. Unfortunately, common sense is far too uncommon these days.
Every Friday night, barring life's occasional interruptions, is movie night in our home. We have a male friend who joins us in watching mostly old B-movies. We all take turns picking, so at least one out of three movies should be interesting to at least one of us, but I digress. Anyway, our textile friend knows that I prefer to stay nude when I can. He has grown used to it and does not seem to pay more or less attention to me now that I go nude most of the time. On one recent visit, he brought a small gift. I gave our textile friend a hug and said thank you. I didn't give a lot of thought to the fact that Iwas nude, he was clothed and is firmly of thetextile persuasion. I just naturally hugged.It was no different than any other hug I have had with any friend, male, female, textile or nudist. In my opinion, that is how it should be.
We have noticed that PDA at it's different levels is accepted very differently depending on the location and audience. Hugging and even kissing a friend hello at the beach is usually acceptable, but not so muchat workor in church. We both like PDA, both between us to express our love for one another as well as with friends to show our affection and appreciation for them. We will both hug friends and even people we meet for the first time, same sex or opposite,whether in a nude or textile environment. However we usually only kiss those of the opposite sexas isour preferance which is probably due to our upbringing. We act this way largely so we don't offend those around us, but this is a fine line, becuase we know there are people who are offended by us just being nude and we have no intention of stopping that. So, what to do? We think for the most part as long as we do what is legalin a particularenvironment we will do OK. We will also fight to defend our liberties so as not to loose them. Effectionate couple in SoCal
Where you are at definately makes a difference. At the church I go to, people regularly hug friends. I work at a different church and have seen people hug each other but not as much. I have seen a lot of couples holding hands at both churches, it is just another sign of love.
I see a lot of people hug each other as a hello or good bye at the nude beach I go to. There are certain areas where people tend to go back to every time they go and therefore they get to know the others there and become friends. Maybe it is because I am in Texas, whose state name meands friend. LOL
Thomas
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