Gun Control for Dummies below gives an interesting look at the Gun Control Debate from a view of the entire Bill of Rights! People often argue the relevance of some of the Amendments in the present time, or the fact that they had muskets back in the day and that broken record argument that doesn't hold water but the fact is that our Founders wrote the Constitution with the long term future well in mind as well as present time. The Third Amendment is a classic example of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=F584p5kJL-U&feature=youtu.be
"Well Regulated Militia" meaning Well trained and Ready! I you can find in the Federalist papers or other proof from the Founders that it meant something different, I'm all ears!
From Merriam Webster Dictionary:
Regulated
transitive verb; regulated, regulating. 1) To govern or direct, according to rule. a) to bring under the control of law or constituted authority. b) to make regulations for or concerning. 2) to bring order, method or uniformity to
...and yes it can be well trained and ready.... but are every one of your 80 million gun owners, well trained and ready? and are they part of a regulated militia? I didn't think so!!
I will GUARANTEE that every legal gun owner on this site and most likely in the nation is more "well trained and regulated" than 99.9% of you no-gun owning gun haters. We either practice at our home ranges or the local gun range as often as we can afford with the price of ammunition now.
You can't guarantee a thing! The modifier at the end of your last gaseous explosion violates your very premise.
If you can't afford ammunition or training at ranges, which you just "guaranteed every legal gun own on this sits has" then your guarantee is invalid and false on it's face! Perhaps you were too busy doodling guns when you were in school to pay much attention to logic.
Now that you have made a guarantee about the gun owners on this site, can you please provide us with the proof of your statement? Proof is similar to being called in poker, you are asked to provide proof - a fact- an incontrovertible fact - something that is not a feeling or belief.
If you can't afford those very things necessary for your very survival, ammunition, perhaps instead of pontificating on this website about "the price of ammunition now" you get a better job, or a second job, that allows you to fulfill your needs.
If the 2nd President Bush - President Rubio, whoever, pick one - were able to bypass the First Amendment and close down the Buddhist temple I attend, then none of our rights are secure. True enough. But it's not going to happen. Nor is Obama going to come to get your gun. No right under the Constitution is absolute and un-regulatable, because rights do, genuinely, conflict.
Do my Hawaiian neighbors have the right to exercise their religion by resuming inter-island raiding for human sacrifice victims? Do the Black Muslims of New Haven have the right, under the First and Second Amendments, to acquire and arm a nuclear weapon? Do I have the right, as a matter of free speech, to insist in print that you are a n*crophiliac, or to circulate n*ked photos of your children?
Weapons have usually been regulated to some extent in much of the US. Dodge City is the famous example. Such regulation is not unprecedented, and is in fact lighter now than it has been in recent decades past. The only thing special about the present moment is the aggressive propagandizing and fundraising being done by political entrepreneurs who have seized on the fears you express, and are fanning those fears to the point of paranoia.
No one is going to come get your gun. As I asked earlier (and yes, there are responses to your topic in the thread, you've just chosen to ignore them) who would that be? In our densely layered Federal system, it could be Phoenix police, the Maricopa County Sheriff, the Arizona State Troopers, the AZ National Guard, the Army, or the Marines. None of those organizations has any brief to do any such thing. And would the rest all stand by, in the event?
. Much farther thatn the likes of you.
Alright Mr. Corpulence, please operationally define what you mean by like of me.
What exactly do you know except I would prefer to live in a world with less weapons? Do you know if I have been trained in gun safety? Do you know if it was an elective in school? Do you know if I ever shot? Besides shooting from the hip, what exactly are you saying?
I will GUARANTEE that every legal gun owner on this site and most likely in the nation is more "well trained and regulated" than 99.9% of you no-gun owning gun haters. We either practice at our home ranges or the local gun range as often as we can afford with the price of ammunition now.
Pray tell on what do you base, what appears to be an outrageous claim?
Steve had basically stated the answer to this question. The ATF is not coming for your guns or your "christian fun". No one is out to get you. So stop whinging and whining. You know it isn't going to happen.
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