Ah, me as well TX. I think the economy has seperated the true nudists from the wanna be's. It's a "put your money where your mouth is" time and I think that a lot of people are nudists when it is not expensive. Now that it is more costly, it's not as interesting for them. It is a shame, but until our society relaxes a little, and social nudism does not have the stigma that it currently does, I fear we will continue to see this.... :(
Thanks
Jerry
Ah, me as well TX. I think the economy has seperated the true nudists from the wanna be's. It's a "put your money where your mouth is" time and I think that a lot of people are nudists when it is not expensive. Now that it is more costly, it's not as interesting for them. It is a shame, but until our society relaxes a little, and social nudism does not have the stigma that it currently does, I fear we will continue to see this.... :( Thanks Jerry
Unfortunately some people cannot afford to go to a resort. That doesn't make them any less of a nudist.
The more Nude Beaches that open, the more Nudist Resorts close.
Well yeah, Why does that surprise people.
I
never understood why the American Association for Nude Recreation
[AANR] would push for nude beaches when their paying members were being
run out of business by the same free nude beaches they were pushing. Is
AANR trying to put itself and all nudist resorts out of business?
I
no longer go to nude beaches. They are unsafe. Most do not have
lifeguards. I always visit a safe nudist resort where they run back
ground checks to keep the creeps out. If you park your naked ass on an
unprotected beach you are on your own.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. You get what you pay for.
You beach bums need not reply. You will never again get me on a unprotected nude beach.
Not all nude beaches are unprotected. The one I go to has a modest entry fee because it is a county park. There are regular patrols by local sheriffs deputies on shore as well as by boat.
Ah, me as well TX. I think the economy has seperated the true nudists from the wanna be's. It's a "put your money where your mouth is" time and I think that a lot of people are nudists when it is not expensive. Now that it is more costly, it's not as interesting for them. It is a shame, but until our society relaxes a little, and social nudism does not have the stigma that it currently does, I fear we will continue to see this.... :( Thanks Jerry
Jerry, you couldn't possibly have meant this the way it sounds. The way it comes across it sounds like some elitist crap yet in the same statement you say that it's a shame that society sets the stigma that it does against social nudism. I must say, I'm a bit confused here. I may not be able to afford to live in a nudist community or even visit one on a regular basis for that matter but does that really make me any less of a nudist than you or anyone else? Does my income level make me any less of a person that anyone else?
On another note about the free beaches and AANR involvement in them, I think that they put great stock in helping to make social nudism available to everyone regardless of economic status. Not to mention that most peoples first exposure to social nudism probably occurs on those beaches and not in the high priced resorts. I grew up skinny dipping in the back yard pool, lakes and rivers and had no idea that nudist resorts even existed till I was nearly 20. At one point I did have a full membership at a resort in Florida and even considered moving there full time. Life and career took me to other places and I no longer hold a membership in any nudist organization but that doesn't change my view on the lifestyle or the way I live my life one bit. All it means is that I don't get news letters in the mail or have a fancy swimming pool to dip my toes in right now.
Ah, me as well TX. I think the economy has seperated the true nudists from the wanna be's. It's a "put your money where your mouth is" time and I think that a lot of people are nudists when it is not expensive. Now that it is more costly, it's not as interesting for them. It is a shame, but until our society relaxes a little, and social nudism does not have the stigma that it currently does, I fear we will continue to see this.... :( Thanks Jerry
Jerry, you couldn't possibly have meant this the way it sounds. The way it comes across it sounds like some elitist crap yet in the same statement you say that it's a shame that society sets the stigma that it does against social nudism. I must say, I'm a bit confused here. I may not be able to afford to live in a nudist community or even visit one on a regular basis for that matter but does that really make me any less of a nudist than you or anyone else? Does my income level make me any less of a person that anyone else?
On another note about the free beaches and AANR involvement in them, I think that they put great stock in helping to make social nudism available to everyone regardless of economic status. Not to mention that most peoples first exposure to social nudism probably occurs on those beaches and not in the high priced resorts. I grew up skinny dipping in the back yard pool, lakes and rivers and had no idea that nudist resorts even existed till I was nearly 20. At one point I did have a full membership at a resort in Florida and even considered moving there full time. Life and career took me to other places and I no longer hold a membership in any nudist organization but that doesn't change my view on the lifestyle or the way I live my life one bit. All it means is that I don't get news letters in the mail or have a fancy swimming pool to dip my toes in right now.
Ooooo, goodie, I get to quote a quote....it's the simple things in life.....
Steve: It's not an elitest attitude, I mean I have had a lot of people tell me that they are nudists when it's cost effective. It's more of a "how bad do you really want to be nude" kinda thing. Forget that I live at a resort when I post, I don't really have the "I live on a resort, I'm better than you mentality", as a matter of fact, since I have been here a short time, I forget I am on the resort, and not just at the old house with a privacy fence.
The point of my comment was that, a lot of friends of ours are going to Disneyworld, or some such thing instead of going nudist. When the economy crunched and money got tighter, they had to make some choices about what was kept on the schedule and what was not, unfortunately, nudist activities got cut. Which I can understand to a certain extent. But I wanted to razz them about anyway.....
Nancy,
I am truly sorry that you have had such bad experiences at the nud beaches. I have never had the opportunity to go to a nude beach, so in some ways I envie you. As for resorts and being a safer place, well, that is not the case at all resorts. My personal experience is that "Clothing Optional" is another way to say "Trouble", but that is not always the case.
I hope sometime that you can have a positive experience at a beach or hot springs, or whatever, one that negates the bad experiences you have had. While there are a lot of perverts out there, not everyone at everyplace is one.
Thanks
Jerry
"Nancy, I see you are still a cynic." {Yes, cynical and safe.} "the boats are mainly there for water safety," {ok, mainly, what is the other reasons?} "normally they don't use binoculars." {It is the un normally reasons that bother me.} "I have also seen female depuites there," Why are they so close you can tell their sex if they have binoculars? "should we ask where their hands are?" {Lesbians?}
The other reason for the boats is law enforcement. You can't stop a boat that goes into swimmng area from shore. They also have used boat for transporting someone who was ill out due to rocky shoreline.
I have never seen them using binoculars, I am sure they would have them as a normal procedure. I simply did not want to say they never used them since that is too finite.
I have good eyesight and can see the boats well enough to determine gender. They also do foot patrols on shore. I have talked to some of them while they were on shore and they are entirely professional. They talk to you, not your genitals. They are there to prevent open sexual acts and keep the peace. There have been people who were drinking excessively and causing problems.
I don't understand why you would say the female deputies were lesbians, there are lots of nude men out there too. They are there to keep people safe not for sexual gratification.
I'm glad that there are more and more beaches being opend up, otherwise I may have never had the opportunity to enjoy social nudity. I can see what you mean JR, about people being nudists as a matter of $$$ convienence, but the truth of the matter is that not everybody can afford to go to resorts. A beach is typically free (at least the ones that I've been too) and a good way to enjoy the afternoon. Also, you don't have to worry about being a couple, in the mood for the beach, just pack up and go. While I have had one bad experience at a beach (it was some perv whacking off at the end of the day), I do think that they are just as safe as any other beach.I knowthey do not normally have life guards, the beach themselves are usually situated in a sheltered cove, so you don't have to worry so much about rips (like I said, in my experience to the beaches I've been to). Actually, my g/f who is not a nudist, prefers to go to nude beaches because of this, she's not a strong swimmer. So, it's a great way for us to do what we both enjoy and still be together. Hehe..there would be no way on God's green earth that I would be able to convince her to go to a nude resort.
Anyways, it is sad to see that nudist venues are on the decline in North America. However, if the nudist movement can get rid of the stigma that nudity equals sexuality, then it would not surprise me to see nudist venues rise dramatically.
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