Am I the only person here that wonders why the cameras are necessary in chat? It seems that the playtime problem would be gone automatically if the cameras were gone. At the very least TT1 should make the chatrooms the feature that people have to pay to use.
While you and I frequently ( always ? ) seem to agree, I'll concede that there seem to be some who use chat more than anything else, so I'm not sure paying for chat would go over well ? On the other hand, nearly all of the apparent complaints seem to center around the cam thing.
I suspect the problem is merely a bit more oversight to "control" the less-than-desirables.
However, this *is* from one who about never uses live real-time on-line chat at all, ever, anywhere.
Still, that it has really no value to me, I'm always interested in solutions. ( and only interested in problems as a path to solutions. It's a hobby )
Am I the only person here that wonders why the cameras are necessary in chat? It seems that the playtime problem would be gone automatically if the cameras were gone. At the very least TT1 should make the chatrooms the feature that people have to pay to use.
No, Lin, you are not the only one who has wondered that. And every
time it comes up I've responded with the following (sure wish I could
find a thread so I could just copy and paste it):
Having
cams in chat allows one to see facial expressions when "chatting" which
lends so much more to the conversation. There is nothing better than
typing in something silly and actually seeing that the person you
directed it to is genuinely smiling or laughing. A lot of times people
will comment on how I'm always smiling in chat...that's because I am
viewing the cam of someone else who is smiling and it becomes
infectious. How many times has someone said something here on the forum
that was misinterpreted because of the lack of voice inflection and
facial expression. With the use of cams, you add back in the facial
expressions. With the cams you get to actually see that you are really
talking to the person you think you are, not some person who is hiding
behind a picture that may not be them. From my past experiences in
textile chat rooms, before the advent of cams, I can tell you that the
"perv" situation exists irregardless of whether you are on cam or not.
Getting rid of the cams won't get rid of the "pervs"...the cams are not
the problem, the "pervs" are the problem.
There are
six simple rules that one agrees to before entering the chat area.
Rule number 5 is to flag or report any one breaking rules 1-4. It's
that simple. Flag them. Hit the report abuse button and send a video
clip. Don't want some "perv" watching your cam? Then use the block
feature. Having been on this site for over a year and regularly using
the chat room for a little less than a year I am happy to say that
we've outlasted most of the "pervs".
As far as
charging for the chat room...there are more people on this site who
regularly use the chat room than there are who post on the forum.
Would it be fair of them to say every time someone spams the forum or
posts inappropriate threads that one should be charged to use the forum?
On
a side note, was in chat for about an hour again last night. Had a
wonderful time. Chatted to some really nice people. Thomas, it was
great seeing you again! You always make me smile. Really miss seeing
you more regularly in chat. Rabbit, really missed seeing you at all.
Syner, it's been great meeting you. And thank you for making me feel
younger by naming bands that I've actually heard of instead of all
those new fangled ones, LOL!
Jen
Am I the only person here that wonders why the cameras are necessary in chat? It seems that the playtime problem would be gone automatically if the cameras were gone. At the very least TT1 should make the chatrooms the feature that people have to pay to use.
No, Lin, you are not the only one who has wondered that. And every
time it comes up I've responded with the following (sure wish I could
find a thread so I could just copy and paste it):
Having
cams in chat allows one to see facial expressions when "chatting" which
lends so much more to the conversation. There is nothing better than
typing in something silly and actually seeing that the person you
directed it to is genuinely smiling or laughing. A lot of times people
will comment on how I'm always smiling in chat...that's because I am
viewing the cam of someone else who is smiling and it becomes
infectious. How many times has someone said something here on the forum
that was misinterpreted because of the lack of voice inflection and
facial expression. With the use of cams, you add back in the facial
expressions. With the cams you get to actually see that you are really
talking to the person you think you are, not some person who is hiding
behind a picture that may not be them. From my past experiences in
textile chat rooms, before the advent of cams, I can tell you that the
"perv" situation exists irregardless of whether you are on cam or not.
Getting rid of the cams won't get rid of the "pervs"...the cams are not
the problem, the "pervs" are the problem.
There are
six simple rules that one agrees to before entering the chat area.
Rule number 5 is to flag or report any one breaking rules 1-4. It's
that simple. Flag them. Hit the report abuse button and send a video
clip. Don't want some "perv" watching your cam? Then use the block
feature. Having been on this site for over a year and regularly using
the chat room for a little less than a year I am happy to say that
we've outlasted most of the "pervs".
As far as
charging for the chat room...there are more people on this site who
regularly use the chat room than there are who post on the forum.
Would it be fair of them to say every time someone spams the forum or
posts inappropriate threads that one should be charged to use the forum?
On
a side note, was in chat for about an hour again last night. Had a
wonderful time. Chatted to some really nice people. Thomas, it was
great seeing you again! You always make me smile. Really miss seeing
you more regularly in chat. Rabbit, really missed seeing you at all.
Syner, it's been great meeting you. And thank you for making me feel
younger by naming bands that I've actually heard of instead of all
those new fangled ones, LOL!
Jen
Jen, very well written and i agree. I don't use the chat as much because I have been busy as well as having more problems with popups there. I definately agree with it is good seeing someone's expressions. Yesterday was a bad day, and seeing you laugh at my silly comments made me feel better.
I admit that I miss some of the misbehaving on cam because I don't watch every one's cams. I have added supporting flag when someone says something in open chat about behavior being inappropraite.
Thomas
Am I the only person here that wonders why the cameras are necessary in chat? It seems that the playtime problem would be gone automatically if the cameras were gone. At the very least TT1 should make the chatrooms the feature that people have to pay to use.
Jen answered your question very well. I will say it in few words. The cam isn't necessary in chat, and many chatters don't. But I like to see the person I am communicating with, especially their facial expression, especially laughter.
I am a little afraid of where this is going to end up. I do not have a cam, nor do I look at the cams, but having the option to see who I am talking to is pretty cool. I may decide to get one some day mainly because my son has one and I dont. But we CAN NOT let the ones who dont follow the rules push out the ones who do. This is a clean site, our site, and we can not let it become a locked box where we all have to get pass cards just to speak with friends. Flag them, block their cam views, turn them in for abuse of the site but do not let them push us into a decision to eliminate cams or begin charging to use cams. There are going to be perverts here whether we like it or not. Cant change it. We can however jump down their throats whenever they cross the line. Tread lightly here and remember that we will have to deal with our reactions to situations like this. We can make this a site known for zero tolerance of offensive behavior but we are all going to have to work together.
Am I the only person here that wonders why the cameras are necessary in chat? It seems that the playtime problem would be gone automatically if the cameras were gone. At the very least TT1 should make the chatrooms the feature that people have to pay to use.
I actually like cams very much
I find it much more interesting to see the other persons while I chat.
Beside that, you also see if he is who he/she realy is and what their intentions are.
But I can say , after couple of intents , just dont go there anymore.
I do suggest this though:
Like some other chartrooms, assigning some chat admins who has the option to kill a bad user.
Seen TT1 in action one night and he did a fair job.
Only that one cannot expect him to stay online all the time.
I am a little afraid of where this is going to end up. I do not have a cam, nor do I look at the cams, but having the option to see who I am talking to is pretty cool. I may decide to get one some day mainly because my son has one and I dont. But we CAN NOT let the ones who dont follow the rules push out the ones who do. This is a clean site, our site, and we can not let it become a locked box where we all have to get pass cards just to speak with friends. Flag them, block their cam views, turn them in for abuse of the site but do not let them push us into a decision to eliminate cams or begin charging to use cams. There are going to be perverts here whether we like it or not. Cant change it. We can however jump down their throats whenever they cross the line. Tread lightly here and remember that we will have to deal with our reactions to situations like this. We can make this a site known for zero tolerance of offensive behavior but we are all going to have to work together.
Very well said, that is how a lot of us feel, and we do work to push out the perverts whenever we are in chat.
Good answers all! Maybe I should try another suggestion now. How about everyone gently suggesting the appointing of chatroom moderators every time you flag someone for a chatroom ruleviolation? The only communication we have with TT1 seems to be when we flag people so maybe we can use that time to also make subtle suggestions. It's a thought...
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