I would not wait until I needed something.As soon as I heard about the change, and I needed something from the store.
If the law were set to change at 00:01, I'd be waiting in my car in the parking lot no later than 23:45. There are lots of things I use all the time. No problem buying a little extra.
I would not wait until I needed something.As soon as I heard about the change, and I needed something from the store.If the law were set to change at 00:01, I'd be waiting in my car in the parking lot no later than 23:45. There are lots of things I use all the time. No problem buying a little extra.
Even though MO is warmer than CA, I think you would also find it chilly
As it is, the most I wear is t-shirt and shorts.Even though MO is warmer than CA, I think you would also find it chilly
If I'm going to be outside for an extended period of time, I do wear more clothing -- even shoes on occasion. But if I'm just going to be walking from my car to a store, the t-shirt and shorts are enough.
Female toplessness is already legal in New York. Do you see it in grocery stores? No. Couple of reasons: The stores themselves have rules in addition to the general law, and the women, protesters aside, would just generally rather shop than create a scene. Same for me if state and local laws in general permitted nudity. First question: Would I be welcome to be nude in this particular private venue? Second question: Is this the day I want to be the guy who's attracting attention, and possibly causing offense, by dressing out of the norm?
Norms do change, but that change is gradual. Legal nudity might creep into being usual on beaches and in parks, then maybe on the street in certain areas, then in businesses adjacent. Too far, too fast, and there's just backlash. Witness what happened in San Francisco with nudity on crowded subway cars, cockrings outside elementary schools, that sort of aggressiveness. Or Brattleboro.
In Denver, women are allowed to be topless anywhere man are allowed to be topless.Female toplessness is already legal in New York. Do you see it in grocery stores? No. Couple of reasons: The stores themselves have rules in addition to the general law, and the women, protesters aside, would just generally rather shop than create a scene.
Thus, if a store requires men to wear a shirt, then women could not be topless.
Private business owners have the right to establish and enforce whatever standards they so desire as long as those standards do not discriminate based on protected classes.
As it stands, Walmart and Sam's do not have any policy or standard beyond the law. If you were at a Walmart in Vermont or Oregon (and were outside of the few specific cities that have enacted anti-nudity laws), then Walmart would not require you to wear clothing.
In Denver, women are allowed to be topless anywhere man are allowed to be topless.Female toplessness is already legal in New York. Do you see it in grocery stores? No. Couple of reasons: The stores themselves have rules in addition to the general law, and the women, protesters aside, would just generally rather shop than create a scene.Thus, if a store requires men to wear a shirt, then women could not be topless.Private business owners have the right to establish and enforce whatever standards they so desire as long as those standards do not discriminate based on protected classes.As it stands, Walmart and Sam's do not have any policy or standard beyond the law. If you were at a Walmart in Vermont or Oregon (and were outside of the few specific cities that have enacted anti-nudity laws), then Walmart would not require you to wear clothing.
I believe that you are planning on moving to Oregon.
Are you planning to shop nude in stores that have no policy against it?
Yes.I believe that you are planning on moving to Oregon.Are you planning to shop nude in stores that have no policy against it?
If I can manage, the plan is to live nude -- including shopping, getting a driver's license, buying stamps at the post office, dinning out, going to the doctor, etc.
nudeyooper wrote:
Super NudistThe laughable part of this is that the bikini that consists of three small triangles of cloth held together by some string can be legal where nude is not. So the next question is where tops are not required, as on beaches and in parks, why are we still seeing three small triangles of cloth?
Because people have different standards about what they choose to wear, and some women choose to conceal their nipple area. I know a woman who had breast cancer and, while they gave her a prosthetic breast, she chose not to do a nipple reconstruction. I imagine she might have qualms about exposing her entire breast.
That said, it may just be a fashion statement. Sometimes one can make a body part more erotic by hiding it. Since we nudists don't strip for purposes of arousing people, it's not an issue for us. But we're not like everybody else.
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