It depends on the context. Doing it in the chat room, on cam (in public) qualifies a person as a perv. They would get arrested and sent to the sex offenders list if they did it in public in the real world.
Being arrested because an activity is against the law still does not define it as perversion. In such a case, it is simply illegal. That is why I disagree with equating rule breaking (or law breaking for that matter) with perversion. After all, nudity is illegal in many places, even many places that are frequented by nudists and naturists. Are we willing to agree with critics that nudity is perversion?
I respectfully disagree. If an activity is inappropriate, or against stated rules, fine. Go ahead and discourage it. Flag, ban, boot. But being inappropriate does not, in and of itself, make an action perverted. As I said, this is simply my pet peeve. I believe that nudists should be sensitive to the use of such an inflammatory word. The word gets tossed around this site as if it had real meaning. It doesn't.
You may ask whatever you wish. I am not mitigating anything - I intend only to state my objections to knee-jerk labels. If an action is an offense of the rules, so be it. I simply object to the characterization of all such actions as perversion. The definition you cite is for exhibitionism is selective. That does not determine that every action labeled as "perv" in this chat room qualifies as such. Perhaps there are habitual exhibitionists in chat. I can't say. But I believe that not every act of a sexual nature in public is perversion. I object to the fact that the word is used too loosely.
This can go on forever without resolution, but I'll say a little more. First, I don't think you can accurately ascribe motives as to why people register on a website. If in fact someone registered here just so they could masturbate on cam, then they are misguided. How many people do that - again, I can't say. Second, if the viewer "benefits", then how bad can it be? (Sorry - a little levity). Finally, the motivations to be sexual on cam are myriad. For some it may be exhibitionism ala the definition you cite - a desire to be seen by any and all. But for others, it may be a contact with an individual or small group. The fact that a cam can be viewed by anyone in the room (except when blocked) may be incidental to the intent. Once again - if it's against the rules, it's against the rules. I just don't believe that calling any and every person who plays on cam a perv is right.
And just to be clear - I am not advocating a change in the rules or a change in the site. I advocate for a change in language.
Yes, civil discourse is good. Two last points:
I think you'll find that most if not all of the on-cam wankers do nothing else on the site.
Since I have no evidence of this, I'm unwilling to make that assumption.They are well aware that their actions are NOT confined to "an individual or small group", but are in full view of every person in the room.
I don't think this is strictly true. Since someone on cam can know at all times who is watching them, you must grant the possibility that a person may change their behavior based on the audience. So in some cases the intent may not be exhibitionism, but simply sexual activity between consenting adults.
Granted, the rules clearly state that such activity is not allowed, and I have no truck with that. I simply object to the use of the word perv. If it fits, it fits; but it doesn't fit in all the cases it is used.
The new cam chat is almost worse than not having it. You can't move the cam window of yourself or someone else out of the way of the chat or the name list.
You can move the cam window around within the chat and name list where it isn't in the way. I like the new chat better because the popups with viruses are gone. It does take a bit of getting used to with the new layout. I just wish the room list was still in order of entry as an option so it is easier to see who just cam in.
Thomas
i dont have the option to log in like you see in the help screen. just username tab, couple/male/female tab and the login. no other option for password. help!!!!!!!!!!
The first time I tried to go into chat I had the same problem, I put in user name and male and it wouldn't log me in. I went to my account tab to make sure I was still logged into site and then went to chat and I worked immediatly.
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