Regardless of yourreligious beliefs, if you were born without clothes, you should be able to safely assume that is the natural way to be and there is nothing wrong with it. It is man that has written laws against nudity, not some higher being.
Very well said Linda
Regardless of yourreligious beliefs, if you were born without clothes, you should be able to safely assume that is the natural way to be and there is nothing wrong with it. It is man that has written laws against nudity, not some higher being.
Very well said Linda
Thank you, Thomas. I've tried to answer the original posters question twice now but that question keeps getting buried by those who are trying to preach and those who are tired of the preaching. Maybe I'm missing something here. I didn't think this thread wasintendedto bean argument over whether religion is good or not. My recollection is that the original posterasked; how do people of other religions reconcile nudity with their religious beliefs? Few in this thread have been courteous enough to answer that question without straying from topic.
As well we don't usually see atheists with Christians on their friends lists, so yes it in fact matters.
Hi, vicjane. I am an atheist who is proud to call rsck12 a friend because, as naturists, we're all we've got. If you check out his profile, you will see he is definitely Christian. Indeed, when I showed a picture of myself dressed up as Santa Claus for a children's Christmas party, he "teased" me a bit by reminding me it was a CHRISTmas party!
Regardless of yourreligious beliefs, if you were born without clothes, you should be able to safely assume that is the natural way to be and there is nothing wrong with it. It is man that has written laws against nudity, not some higher being.
Very well said Linda
Thank you, Thomas. I've tried to answer the original posters question twice now but that question keeps getting buried by those who are trying to preach and those who are tired of the preaching. Maybe I'm missing something here. I didn't think this thread wasintendedto bean argument over whether religion is good or not. My recollection is that the original posterasked; how do people of other religions reconcile nudity with their religious beliefs? Few in this thread have been courteous enough to answer that question without straying from topic.
Unfortunately, there are two subjects that should always be avoided in polite company. Religion is one of them. The other one is politics.
We've just had about 15 centimetres of snow. How's the weather in your area? (See? That's a safe subject.)
I'm a Christian.
I like the freedom of wearingnothing whenever it's appropriate (most of the time at home; in public when it's accepted).
Some of the people who get naked with me are Christians and others aren't. Some Christians get uptight about taking off their clothes in the company of others, but others don't.
As I understand Christian faith and Christian community, there's nothing that opposes getting naked. But there's nothing that says you have to get naked, either. Christianity and nudism are not incompatible. (No more thanare nudism and Buddhism.)
Naked Badger
No where in the bible ( jewish and Christian is the same ) you will find prohibition to be naked.
You cant find one rabbi or a priest that will tell you otherwise.
This prohibitions came later in the new testament ( or interpretation of it )and the jewish GMARA.
Enjoy your birth suite.
I think the original questioh has less to do with an individual's reading and interpretation of the scripture and more to do with the conflict one may have with the practices or doctrines of a religious group. If one "joins" a church (and church can be at any level from the worlwide religion to the congregation around the corner) and that church teaches or preaches against nudity, then there is tension. One must choose which authority to follow, and must also decide whether membership in a group that disapproves of one's actions is warranted.
Not to put words in anyone's mouth, but the question might be rephrased - "If your religious group dissaproves of nudism, how do you handle it?"
I shall answer this without straying from topic. The question LiloandStitch1 asked was: How do people of any religious belief, especially those with strong stances against being socially nude find a way to get the two issues to coexist within themselves? They can't, unless it's a religous denomination that is open to it. How do you expect to get the two issues to coexist within themselves in the textile world, when they can't even get two issues to coexist in the nudist world? There is always fragmentation and division in every walk of life, as it is well proven in these threads. It is your own personal belief system that has to coexist with nudism. If you believe that your religion is right in saying that nudity is wrong, then you must follow your belief system. If you believe there is nothing wrong with nudism, then perhaps you have chosen the wrong religion to follow. You either go nude secretly in defiance of your religion, dump religion all together, find a religion that allows it, or give up nudism.
This is very well put. I am fortunate in that the Catholic Church doesn't preach against nudism. I wish I remembered the exact quote by Pope John Paul supporting nudism. All organized religions have rules based on a person's interpetation of something written. The many versions of the bible are due to different people translating it from the original Hebrew. I feel that if you feel it is not wrong to be nude in your heart, then it isn't wrong for you.
I shall answer this without straying from topic. The question LiloandStitch1 asked was: How do people of any religious belief, especially those with strong stances against being socially nude find a way to get the two issues to coexist within themselves? They can't, unless it's a religous denomination that is open to it. How do you expect to get the two issues to coexist within themselves in the textile world, when they can't even get two issues to coexist in the nudist world? There is always fragmentation and division in every walk of life, as it is well proven in these threads. It is your own personal belief system that has to coexist with nudism. If you believe that your religion is right in saying that nudity is wrong, then you must follow your belief system. If you believe there is nothing wrong with nudism, then perhaps you have chosen the wrong religion to follow. You either go nude secretly in defiance of your religion, dump religion all together, find a religion that allows it, or give up nudism.
This is very well put. I am fortunate in that the Catholic Church doesn't preach against nudism. I wish I remembered the exact quote by Pope John Paul supporting nudism. All organized religions have rules based on a person's interpetation of something written. The many versions of the bible are due to different people translating it from the original Hebrew. I feel that if you feel it is not wrong to be nude in your heart, then it isn't wrong for you.
Here you go, Tx! This was originally posted by Knarfje on the nudist quotes thread
"Sexual modesty cannot then in any simple way be identified with the
use of clothing nor shamelessness with the absence of clothing and
total or partial nakedness. There are circumstances in which nakedness
is not immodest... Nakedness as such is not to be equated with physical
shamelessness. Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a
negative role with regard to the value of the person... The human body
is not in itself shameful, nor for the same reasons are sensual
reactions, and human sensuality in general. Shamelessness (just like
shame and modesty) is a function of the interior of a person."
---Karol Cardinal Wojtyla (later to become Pope John Paul II)
Liloandstitch, with your Catholic upbringing this may help you with your reconciliation. Hope this helps!
Jen
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