Great point, ThisWayNow! MOst people aren't comfortable with silence--to share that, not feel a need to say anything but just be there with each other in the moment is another great indicator of that intimate comfort level.
Couldn't agree more with a lot of what was mentioned from the other guy's posts. I think male bonding is not something to be taken lightly. Whether it is physical, spiritual, or emotional; male bonding is something that can be appreciated an enjoyed at every level. Whether it's swimming/skinny dipping, watching sports, or just talking about life, true male bonding begins an ends with a trust factor that develops an grow over time.
If you want that sexual male bonding, then that's all that's going to happen whether it is jerking off or more. To me, that is not ultimate male bonding but something immediate an satisfying a typical mage urge; reaching an orgasm. How sad to think that is the best we can do when it comes to male bonding. Male bonding for me includes talking, sharing my most personal thoughts an dreams; a nice touch or a hug, someone willing to see me for who I am an wanting to know more. Someone who doesn't judge or condemn because we also have different beliefs and ideas. The ultimate activity for me is when the other guy said he had a great time with me no matter what we were doing an looks forward to hanging out again. Not only is that a compliment but what it does for ones' self-esteem to be appreciate an loved is the ultimate. Just my thoughts.
Couldn't agree more with a lot of what was mentioned from the other guy's posts. I think male bonding is not something to be taken lightly. Whether it is physical, spiritual, or emotional; male bonding is something that can be appreciated an enjoyed at every level. Whether it's swimming/skinny dipping, watching sports, or just talking about life, true male bonding begins an ends with a trust factor that develops an grow over time. If you want that sexual male bonding, then that's all that's going to happen whether it is jerking off or more. To me, that is not ultimate male bonding but something immediate an satisfying a typical mage urge; reaching an orgasm. How sad to think that is the best we can do when it comes to male bonding. Male bonding for me includes talking, sharing my most personal thoughts an dreams; a nice touch or a hug, someone willing to see me for who I am an wanting to know more. Someone who doesn't judge or condemn because we also have different beliefs and ideas. The ultimate activity for me is when the other guy said he had a great time with me no matter what we were doing an looks forward to hanging out again. Not only is that a compliment but what it does for ones' self-esteem to be appreciate an loved is the ultimate. Just my thoughts.
I hear what you all say about male bonding and I agree that there should be more to bonding than a few guys masturbating together, BUT all of you seem to be talking about "male bonding" when I'm talking about "NAKED male bonding". Being naked puts a different light on the scene because we men are now showing our sex organs to everyone. This is not like showing an ankle or a finger but a part of us that is extremely important in our minds for a big part of every day. This is our breeding equipment and not therefore easy to forget as we walk around bonding with it dangling between our legs along with our testicles. No wonder it therefore needs to be talked about and a discussed with others as to the frequency with which it is played with and a curiosity about what size it has the potential to grow to and how much sperm is ejaculated.
Couldn't agree more with a lot of what was mentioned from the other guy's posts. I think male bonding is not something to be taken lightly. Whether it is physical, spiritual, or emotional; male bonding is something that can be appreciated an enjoyed at every level. Whether it's swimming/skinny dipping, watching sports, or just talking about life, true male bonding begins an ends with a trust factor that develops an grow over time. If you want that sexual male bonding, then that's all that's going to happen whether it is jerking off or more. To me, that is not ultimate male bonding but something immediate an satisfying a typical mage urge; reaching an orgasm. How sad to think that is the best we can do when it comes to male bonding. Male bonding for me includes talking, sharing my most personal thoughts an dreams; a nice touch or a hug, someone willing to see me for who I am an wanting to know more. Someone who doesn't judge or condemn because we also have different beliefs and ideas. The ultimate activity for me is when the other guy said he had a great time with me no matter what we were doing an looks forward to hanging out again. Not only is that a compliment but what it does for ones' self-esteem to be appreciate an loved is the ultimate. Just my thoughts.
I hear what you all say about male bonding and I agree that there should be more to bonding than a few guys masturbating together, BUT all of you seem to be talking about "male bonding" when I'm talking about "NAKED male bonding". Being naked puts a different light on the scene because we men are now showing our sex organs to everyone. This is not like showing an ankle or a finger but a part of us that is extremely important in our minds for a big part of every day. This is our breeding equipment and not therefore easy to forget as we walk around bonding with it dangling between our legs along with our testicles. No wonder it therefore needs to be talked about and a discussed with others as to the frequency with which it is played with and a curiosity about what size it has the potential to grow to and how much sperm is ejaculated.
That is not naked male bonding an know I didn't misunderstand you in the slightest at all. You are talking about a sexual activity between men which to me is private, but also has nothing to do with true nudism at all. It has to do with hook ups, wanting to have sex, sharing a jerk or a wank or something. What can possibly masturbation have to do with true nudism, being a naturist, being a man? Seriously, the way you talk is very predatory, like you are trying to get "str8" guys to admit to wanting to jerk off with another guy an that somehow you believe that is "the glue" which truly bonds men. How sad that is you think that way. That is not my idea of bonding nor is it within the group of men I hang out nude with. We are not there to share our "genitals" with each other but to get to know one another in a nudist venue. Also it does not need not to be discussed in this forum of male bonding. You are sadly mistaken an must be lonely if you think this is how males need to do naked bonding. Feel very sorry for you.
There are so many things that constitute male bonding to me and it centers around shared experiences and vulnerability. As guys we don't always have to talk a lot. Sometimes just being with someone while doing some activity, anything from watching sports or TV to building something is enough. But when we are freed to be ourselves and to be vulnerable in a safe environment I feel bonding can be at a deeper level. Talking about our fears, our triumphs, our daily slog and hearing from others about theirs. And of course, a good naturedly poking at each other's challenges and insecurities. Nudity removes another barrier. If you feel safe naked with others you've already got a good start toward deeper bonding opportunities. Sharing and expressing our sexuality, whether guys identify as gay, straight, or otherwise, is of course one type of activity as others have said. I've also had deeply meaningful conversations sitting naked outside around a table or fire pit with some drinks or cigars. The freedom to be vulnerable in a safe environment is the key for me.
You hit the nail on the head with this comment. This is why I love being a nudist. Accepting people as they are. Non-sexual and sexual activites and sexual orientaions aside, being together nude just strengthens a bond between men. Allowing us to be exposed and vulnerable allows us to be open and honest in ways that we normally would not be with each other. It's an amazing experience.
I saw this thread yesterday and am liking the way it is progressing. While I'm the first one to enjoy a good masturbation session with a buddy or three, and it can be a bit of a bonding experience, I whole-heartedly agree that the real bonding comes through talking, opening up and sharing, showing not just our vulnerability to another male, but also trusting them, sharing and not judging. Often physical contact can be a part of that, though I don't believe it is generally sexual, but more brotherly--comforting and adding to the emotional connection that is being built. It usually isn't tough to find someone willing to stroke out a load (on cam, in person, or otherwise)...but finding someone willing to REALLY BUILD a deep, binding friendship, the trust necessary for another man to feel safe in opening up and expressing his true self is a colossal challenge, and rarely happens. Many men say they want that, but when it comes down to actually reaching out and building it, even many of those shy away, aren't comfortable with the closeness and emotional intimacy, and run the other direction.Keep up this kind of conversation and sharing, though. THIS is what this group is supposed to be about........ THANKS MEN!!
I totally agree. I think that once you've got your clothes off with another man, it's a great idea to have a naked hug. This way you're letting them into your zone and it's the perfect way to break down any barriers. Then it's good to start talking. About anything at all. I always find that when guys are naked together they really open up and are honest with each other. Jacking off doesn't always happen, and that's fine. I find I have so much respect for a guy who will strip down and expose his body and genitals and just talk about stuff.
Jacking off is a trust thing too. I think you both know when there's a level of comfort in showing the other guy how your manhood works and what you like. That's just part of the process though.
I think, platonically, just sharing your nakedness with a buddy is the ultimate.
When men are together there is a commonality, since we are men. Many of the same experiencing - many of the same things going in life, and dealing with the same things with self and others. Nudity allows us to be more as one...seeing another males genitals is pure curiosity. Once that is over we can be who we want to be and the amount of sharing is up to the individuals and their comfort level. Bonding is being yourself with another, and if it becomes a sexual situation, the bonding becomes what it is for those individuals. I hang with a group of nudist males, gay yet we are not sexual, we are just nudists who bond due to our enjoyment of nudity. If some enjoy the sexual side, it is their bond vs a bond without sexual nudity.
There are so many things that constitute male bonding to me and it centers around shared experiences and vulnerability. As guys we don't always have to talk a lot. Sometimes just being with someone while doing some activity, anything from watching sports or TV to building something is enough. But when we are freed to be ourselves and to be vulnerable in a safe environment I feel bonding can be at a deeper level. Talking about our fears, our triumphs, our daily slog and hearing from others about theirs. And of course, a good naturedly poking at each other's challenges and insecurities. Nudity removes another barrier. If you feel safe naked with others you've already got a good start toward deeper bonding opportunities. Sharing and expressing our sexuality, whether guys identify as gay, straight, or otherwise, is of course one type of activity as others have said. I've also had deeply meaningful conversations sitting naked outside around a table or fire pit with some drinks or cigars. The freedom to be vulnerable in a safe environment is the key for me.
Totality agree. I've had bro's that I have gone camping with, sharedTecequa over a campfire with, but that's as far as it went. Have another bro that I met here, we shared conversations, met naked and got to shared with each other. The next time, he shaved me for the first time in my life and I repaid him appropriately... It was an eye-opening experience for me; the shaving, less so, but experiencing another person... well, though it didn't 'rock my world', was a mind blowing experience for me and an awaking to another side of me that I had hidden for 65 years. I'm now sorry the chemistry and awaking came so late in my life.
I can't say that I look forward to cuddling up behind him at night, the way I do with some women I share chemistry with, but he's the next best thing. I haven't been in this ball game long enough to know how this equates to the BS women give you, because though I miss sharing my life with one, the eventuality is that the BS just gets to be too much.