Several good comments so far. I think male bonding takes time and communication. Both of which are rare that I have. It is investing in each other not on a financial level. Time is valuable. Whether textile or nude should include just hanging out and talking about life. There should be specific times of being nude together knowing that there will be no sex but there should be physical touch. It does not have to include touching of reproductive organs but could. We should not associate nakedness with sex. Nakedness should be openness to say I'm not hiding anything and am willing to share my life thoughts with you.
Hi Euchin, On top of everything you said I would like to ad mutual interest in physical activity is good also. Thank you for your Comment Sean
So far a lot ofgood comments. I've enjoyed reading and commenting all of them. I hope your comments help you to connect with others in this group with similar interests. I noticed no one actually responded to my other question, why are youin this group ? Your answer may help you connect with someone in this group who has the same thoughts and interests as you do, then this group will be serving a helpful purpose. Sean
So far a lot ofgood comments. I've enjoyed reading and commenting all of them. I hope your comments help you to connect with others in this group with similar interests. I noticed no one actually responded to my other question, why are youin this group ? Your answer may help you connect with someone in this group who has the same thoughts and interests as you do, then this group will be serving a helpful purpose. Sean
I also wanted to mention but forgot to earlier. I noticed a lot more guys in the group are looking at this topic of conversation, but not participating. I was hoping for more participation, maybe in time there will be.
why are youin this group ?
I am looking for male bonding. I'm looking for a David-and-Jonathan-like friendship. Unfortunately, I live in an area where male bonding is highly controversial, the battle lines have been drawn, and I'm stuck in the middle. On the one side are the prudes that think all forms of male bonding is sin. On the other side are the crudes that think nudity is an open invitation. It is almost impossible to find true nudist in my area.
Thanks My fellow Aussie! I will charge you 20cents for my thoughts next time!!I value friendship far higher than a financial transaction. I know guys who will only associate with others who are in a certain socioeconomic group to further their own careers and social standing. They are shallow and untrustworthy as they do not know the value of friendship and the benefits of bonding with guys.
It's really difficult to put into words, but male bonding to me means communication and shared experiences. Any kind of bonding begins with that. But male bonding is taken to a whole other level when the clothes come off and that last wall is torn down. For example, a hike is just a hike. But a nude hike with a buddy is so much more...intimate. Not in a sexual way, but in a way that conveys a level of comfort with a person. That you have nothing to hide from each other, not even your naked bodies. Same with a trip to a nude beach, or swimming in a pool realizing that swimsuits are neither needed nor expected. Even something simple as showering together at a golf club or after a gym workout can be very bonding. Possibly that's because it's something men can do together that men and women can not. There are no mixed showers in those type of places. But also because I think women are raised and socialized differently. For instance, get a group of boys together around a swimming hole in the woods somewhere, there likely will be some naked group swimming going on. With a group of girls, not so much. Men just have a different relationship and comfort level with nudity I think. And I believe always have (ancient Greece Olympics comes to mind). So in a way, I think when men strip down together, we are getting back to our roots..our common core if you will. Something within us all, but that some bury and try to shut out. Our clothes are just that, a coverup to what we really are.
Most all of this is totally true. What stands out to me are: 1) "Any kind of bonding begins with (communication and shared experiences)" 2) "But male bonding is taken to a whole other level when the clothes come off and that last wall is torn down..." Can you believe that some men are not open to be nude in front of a mirror? 3) "...I think that women are raised and socialized differently" Man, have some people missed the boat. The movement to "equalize the genders" is a failure from the get go. 4) most importantly you said, "I think when men strip down together, we are getting back to our roots... our common core if you will" nothing says it better. It's not clothes that are the coverup, it is our own fear of self as reflected in other men. We are by nature bound together, and the more openly we accept this, the better our relationships will be.
why are youin this group ?
I am looking for male bonding. I'm looking for a David-and-Jonathan-like friendship. Unfortunately, I live in an area where male bonding is highly controversial, the battle lines have been drawn, and I'm stuck in the middle. On the one side are the prudes that think all forms of male bonding is sin. On the other side are the crudes that think nudity is an open invitation. It is almost impossible to find true nudist in my area.I think you have a laudable goal. But, I strongly suggest you read several interpretations and reflections on "David and Jonathan" before you condemn any others thoughts on this subject. I can't think of anywhere that True Nudism is not controversial. That is why we often seek out similar minds to support ourselves. Good Luck!
Thanks My fellow Aussie! I will charge you 20cents for my thoughts next time!!I value friendship far higher than a financial transaction. I know guys who will only associate with others who are in a certain socioeconomic group to further their own careers and social standing. They are shallow and untrustworthy as they do not know the value of friendship and the benefits of bonding with guys.
I've known people like that. They will only be your friend if it benefits them.
why are youin this group ?
I am looking for male bonding. I'm looking for a David-and-Jonathan-like friendship. Unfortunately, I live in an area where male bonding is highly controversial, the battle lines have been drawn, and I'm stuck in the middle. On the one side are the prudes that think all forms of male bonding is sin. On the other side are the crudes that think nudity is an open invitation. It is almost impossible to find true nudist in my area.
I agree, I have the same problem. And unfortunately its the crudes that seem to make the prudes appear correct. There is also the people who innocently assume that male affection is gay behavior judging by what they see on TV and whatnot and don't partake in it since they identify as straight.
A suggestion for you and salt. Click on search at the top left of the screen. Type in your locations and what other pertinent info you need to type. Click enter and you should get a list of people near you from the site. You probably have already done this, I don't know. After reading what you both wrote, I was just throwing it out there. Sean
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