im a nudist trying to be 1 while part of a religion that tries to bash it. Help!
I'm a Roman Catholic. what do i tell catholics that try to tell me that i'm sinning by practicing nudism? i mean, it's not like i think the leaders of the church are more correct on anything than anyone else because of their human nature. they can claim to speak from the holy spirit when they don't. please help me.
I'm a Roman Catholic. what do i tell catholics that try to tell me that i'm sinning by practicing nudism? i mean, it's not like i think the leaders of the church are more correct on anything than anyone else because of their human nature. they can claim to speak from the holy spirit when they don't. please help me.
Does the TEN COMMANDMENTS say anything about "Thou shalt not go naked"? I don't think so. If God made man in his own image, and man chooses to cover it up with clothes, then doesn't that imply man is ASHAMED of God's image? Something to think about.
If any of these so-called religious experts try to condemn you for being naked, ask them if they are ashamed of God's image. Wait for their answer, which will probably be something like "certainly not" or something to that effect. Then you can ask them why they think His image/creation needs to be covered up. They must not approve of God's image or his work making humans if they think it should remain out of site and hidden away.
This is why I think St. John Paul VI should be designated as the Patron Saint of Nudists. In his early days as an actor and playwright he spent summers at retreats for actors and stage related individuals. It is believed that nudism was commonly practiced at these retreats.
Pope John Paul II on Nudism
Drawing from his own pastoral experience as a priest and bishop before he became Pope John Paul II, Karol Wojtyla has produced a remarkably eloquent and resourceful book Love and Responsibility.
The following is a portion of that work.
Sexual modesty cannot then in any simple way be identified with the use of clothing, nor shamelessness with the absence of clothing and total or partial nakedness. There are circumstances in which nakedness is not immodest nakedness as such is not to be equated with physical shamelessness. Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person, when its aim is to arouse concupiscence, as a result of which the person is put in the position of an object of enjoyment. The human body is not in itself shameful, nor for the same reasons are sensual reactions, and human sensuality in general. Shamelessness (just like shame and modesty) is a function of the interior of a person. There is a certain relativism in the definition of what is shameless. This relativism may be due to differences in the makeup of particular persons-a greater or lesser sensual excitability, a higher or lower level of moral culture-or to different world views. It may equally be due to differences in external conditions-in climate, for instanceand also in prevailing customs, social habits, etc. Dress is always a social question, a function ofsocial customs. In this matter there is no exact similarity in the behavior of particular people, even if they live in the same age and the same society. The principle of what is truly immodest is simple and obvious, but its application in specific cases depends upon the individual, the milieu, the society. There are circumstances in which nakedness is not immodest. If someone takes advantage of such an occasion to treat the person as an object of enjoyment (even if his action is purely internal) it is only he who is guilty of shamelessness not the other.
-- Pope John Paul II, Love and Responsibility, trans. H.T. Willetts (New York: Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 1981), pp. 176-192.
it's just they get worried about provoking lust. of course, that's someone else's fault. i believe if nudity is gonna be controlled, it should be for environmental reasons instead of moral reasons. they do that in germany.
I agree with that excerpt from Pope John Paul II. Moreover, they must remember not to judge others: it is a direct order form Jesus Christ himself.
Just ignore them anyway. Being a good Christian/Catholic doesn't have anything to do with nudity, unless you're bragging it around and forget to love God and others.
Look through the groups section and you will find several groups relating to Christian nudists that you can join. You might be able to find more of the answers you are looking for there, regarding religion and nudity.
From what I have read and understand about The Church's teachings on nudity--,,, it is NOT a sin to be naked, or be a nudist.But, the things you DO while nude can be a sin.Makes sense to me.
How dare you instill logic into the conversation! LOL and just kidding. Great discussion all!
Somehow this thread got posted twice and I had responded to the other one but this is the active thread so I'm reposting my comments here (with a few slight corrections):
If people tell you that you are sinning just enjoying life as God intended then they need to read their Bible. Adam and Eve were nude and that's the way God intended. Only when sin entered the picture and they were no longer under God's protection in the garden did clothing come into the picture. Clothing is for protection from the elements that God had protected them from. Jesus had no issue with nudity. What he has problems with is lust. Jesus was nude several times in the Bible himself like when he was baptized. There are groups on this site and other places such as the fig leaf forum that can help a lot more.
For all the people who believe that we must wear clothes because of Adam and Eve's sins, I remind them that Christ died for those sins. Those sins have been atoned for, so they no longer apply to today's Christians. Do they believe in what Christ did or not? It's either yes or no. They can't have it both ways.
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