Body Jewelry
A group to show off your jewelry. And ask about the best way to wear it.
- created by Jeanne
Art or Porn?
Return to DiscussionsJeanne wrote:OK, taking this further, when is art porn
The differences between this series and the previous ones is that they call attention to either the sex act or prominently displayed genitalia, both of which are forbidden by the site owners.
And it's the site owners who make the call, because they're navigating in an area where they might face legal prosecution for what they choose to display. Considering that we're in a society where some think that any display of nudity at all is perverted, I have to give them credit for displaying any nude pictures at all.
As others have pointed out, the nude human body is considered beautiful by some people, no matter what behavior is presented. For me, art is all about conveying truth, which is where most (but not all) pornography falls short. It's almost never meant to portray real sex, which is all about communication and intimacy, but mechanical portrayals of a fantasized concept of the act. And from what I can see, the performance always ends with the orgasm. In real life, that's when the story starts, as the characters relish the bond they have just formed with each other.
I agree that the border between art and sexual porn is penetration of orifices. I see terms like "food porn" as misnomers or creative adaption of language. Is hardware porn next? Yes art is in the eye of the beholder. There is museum art and kitschy art as well as art that doesn't seem art-like to many. That's another debate.
There's also the distinction between erotica, which I see as appealing more to the mind, and porn, which is more related to sexual titillation. Some have also raised the issue of "tradition," which is often just a reference to Western history stretching back several decades. The phallus has been predominant in ancient art over millennia, but women's genitalia do not seem to have received the same "traditional" attention.
At the end of her career, Virginia O'Keefe did a lot of huge paintings of flower pistels which are extremely erotic, but lack the cheap, blatant "pink taco" attention seeking often used in puritanical/decadent US marketing.
Later this spring, I'm having an outdoor nude photo shoot done. I will have a boner in some of the images. Will it be art? That's my intention and the intention of the photographer. Will everyone see the images as being art? Unlikely.
I had a photographer approach me about doing an outdoor nude photo shoot. He knew I was a nudist and wanted to get some "random" shots of me naked around my place for his portfolio. Some were flaccid, some were erect.
What is more manly/masculine than a completely nude man with a fully stiff cock.I had a photographer approach me about doing an outdoor nude photo shoot. He knew I was a nudist and wanted to get some "random" shots of me naked around my place for his portfolio. Some were flaccid, some were erect.
How can that not be art?
Art often attempts to capture the essence of the subject. What more essence can be captured than a totally nude man with a solid erection. No costume, no cover-up, no pretense. This is male.
stoneandy wrote:Some have also raised the issue of "tradition," which is often just a reference to Western history stretching back several decades. The phallus has been predominant in ancient art over millennia, but women's genitalia do not seem to have received the same "traditional" attention.
Could that be because all of those artists were male?
And mensasmem wrote:What is more manly/masculine than a completely nude man with a fully stiff cock.
If you equate masculinity with virility, I guess that makes sense. But to say that I'm more masculine when I'm sporting a boner than when I'm not is absurd. I can feel just as "manly" either way. If we are teaching our boys that all they need to do to be manly is to be able to get it up, it's no wonder that we are turning out a generation of misogynists who don't know how to respect women.
Both sets of lips are smiling, thank you!
Yes, I believe you're asking for things the moderators are specifically asking us not to share here. The thing I don't understand is why they've allowed this thread to keep keeping on. Arbitrary enforcement of the erection rules seems to weaken their strength.
Keep up the lovely art, Jeanne ~
It's hard to set a border between art and porn. It depends a lot of views, religion and own moral performances. While it is already porn for some, when you sitting with spread legs and the pussy is seen, it starts for other porn at right sex.
I do not mind showing my pussy or to look at others.