Members Of The Naturist Society
This is a place where all members/former members of the naturist society can get together and discuss personal concerns and share stories about resorts and naturist issues. Nudism seems to be the last TABOO!
- created by randsnudist
Very disappointed and disgusted with The Naturist Society Foundation
Return to DiscussionsIt is with a very sad heart that I have to let everyone know - WE are no longer supporters of TNSF. This past issue of the magazine summer/fall 2020 has pushed us over the edge. Pages 14 and 15 feature an article where the author Compares the nudist lifestyle fight for our right to those of the militant BLACK LIVES MATTERS struggle. I can't wrap my mind around the reason they decided to make nudism a political issue. We have written for the magazine and preached to 100's and 100's of people about the need to be involved and support a national organization that is fighting for nudist rights! The very last lines in the article should have EVERY member upset and demanding answers to why this article was published in the first place!!
The author (and thus the organization that was willing to publish the article) states ... "It is time for us naturist to march in solidarity. NOT to protest for nudist rights, BUT because Black Lives Matter"....
This is a nudist magazine and supposedly an organization who mission statement and vision are geared towards NUDIST - not a political arm for any other organization that has nothing to do with nudism or naturism...
We have pulled our month giving - and will sadly let our membership expire when the next renewal is due. THEY (TNSF) must hear our voices and feel the pain of support withdrawn. I wrote the entire board and the editor a letter approx. 2 weeks ago - NO explanation ever given - not even concerned about losing members and funds!!
MAKE your voice and wallet heard.... membership@naturistsociety.com and the editor nickyh@naturistsociety.com
NUDIST LIVES MATTER - - any color and every person!!!
For at least the 3rd time... I don't care if it's BLM, Jews for Jesus, Blue Lives Matter, Trump... whatever / whomever... a National Organization should remain non political... enough said... as a person believe/support whatever or whomever... if it was support Trump... I'd complain too... probably louder!!
In fact, the movement does include and reach out to all people of color. In America the problem faced by African Americans is shared by all Americans to varying degrees. Bad policing affects all of us. It is just easiest to see in the stark difference between the way that white and black defendants are treated.
Thanks for pointing this out. I see the focus of BLM is on policing. The media made it a political/partisan issue to vilify and discredit the protesters, which in turn shfts the focus away from policing. Perhpas a better name would be "the lives of people of color and others with non-normative backgrounds whom experience outright discrimation matter and they deserve respect and justice to the same degree as white suburbanites experience" but that gets a bit much to say, wouldn't you agree? The earlier expression of taking a knee by professional athletes was a peaceful demonstration and was also vilified. How can it be considered disrespectful when kneeling to someone or someone is a traditional sign of respect? And if flags are so important, why are no complaints made for people who alter the colors or adorn them with names, faces or slogans for political reasons against the flag code?
I was skeptical myself of police discrimination until my colleague got arrested and put in jail for driving while black in Washington DC. He was African-Swedish on business for the Swedish Embassy. It was traumatic for him but he had it easy after the Embassy called their lawyer and he was quickly released. The experience made me realize 1) it COULDN'T have happened to me and 2) the PREJUDICE against people of color (he doesn't call himself black or brown, just Swedish with an African father) is REAL regardless of support from attorneys and diplomats.
If black lives don't matter, neither does mine, neither do any of ours and we're all screwed.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.
-Martin Niemller, German Lutheran pastor and Dachau concentration camp survivor
Perfect! I agree with you! People who do not live in the United States bolstering opinions with half truths and half facts! If I came at you with a knife in a crazed state of mind with intent to do you SEVERE bodily harm....what would you do?
I don't understand anything. Who doesn't like in the US? Who is crazed with a knife? Where are you coming from? What are you talking about?
I want to question the comment that the naturist society should stay out of political discussions. I do not assume that the member who said this is racist or intends to deny the idea that Black Lives Matter. I believe that endorsing policies or movements that promote tolerance and diversity are very much in support of nudist values. We are at most a social minority in need of protection. Many people would say that nudists are an annoying fringe group that threatens public safety and morality. (We nudists understand how fear and ignorance drive that foolish idea.).
Defending the safety of black and brown nudists is certainly in support of the core mission. No informed person can deny that America does not behave as if Black Lives matter as much as White lives. ( Do some thoughtful investigation before you oppose this statement. ) Bringing the idea to all corners of society is the way to make it true that all lives matter to all of us.
I want to question the comment that the naturist society should stay out of political discussions. I do not assume that the member who said this is racist or intends to deny the idea that Black Lives Matter. I believe that endorsing policies or movements that promote tolerance and diversity are very much in support of nudist values. We are at most a social minority in need of protection. Many people would say that nudists are an annoying fringe group that threatens public safety and morality. (We nudists understand how fear and ignorance drive that foolish idea.).
Defending the safety of black and brown nudists is certainly in support of the core mission. No informed person can deny that America does not behave as if Black Lives matter as much as White lives. ( Do some thoughtful investigation before you oppose this statement. ) Bringing the idea to all corners of society is the way to make it true that all lives matter to all of us.
ANY national organization should work to stay non-political and true to their stated GOALS / Mission STATEMENTS... Again, no need to rehash who believes what and who matters and who doesn't. For the 5th time now... DON'T care if it is JEWS for Jesus, Abortion on Demand, Young Republican Women's Club, Support Nancy Pelosi, or The TRUMP train supporters... A NATIONAL - nudist organizations sole (ONLY) focus should be nudist rights, places nudist can gather to meet like minded people - - BLM could give a damn if The Naturist Society supports them or not... the article was poorly placed and poorly timed... like it or not 50% love TRUMP / 50% love BIDEN - - neither party has done a DAMN thing to help nudist have more places to go or FREEDOM to express oneself - - so let's move on!! IF you feel like supporting TNSF - please do... to me ALL NUDIST lives matter... but haven't heard much from BLM now that we've had an election - - maybe the police quite shooting / or maybe they were a political tool.... don't care - - love is love and NAKED is wonderful!!