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Clothing Optional Venues
Return to DiscussionsWho here goes to C/O venues and wear clothes? My opinion is, if I go through the time, effort and expense to travel to an area where nudity is allowed, then I want to spend as much time as possible nude. If the weather is conducive to nudity, why wear anything? There are hundreds of thousands of places I can go where I HAVE to remain clothed, so if I want to wear clothes I can just go to one of them. If you go somewhere that clothing is optional, why wear clothes? What's the point of going, if not to get nekkid?
What I find interesting is that there are plenty of places that are clothing optional, except that the pool(s), spa(s), hot tub(s), et cetera. Require nudity. Und I guess because a lot of the places are nudist/clothing optional, I've heard more than a few describe themselves as being "bare as you dare."
Why can't we all just be nude?
What I find interesting is that there are plenty of places that are clothing optional, except that the pool(s), spa(s), hot tub(s), et cetera. Require nudity. Und I guess because a lot of the places are nudist/clothing optional, I've heard more than a few describe themselves as being "bare as you dare."Why can't we all just be nude?
There are couples or friends where one doesn't want to be nude in public, but is OK going to a clothing optional location with the one who does.
At some of the C/O resorts I've visited, where the pool/hot-tub/central area is clearly designated as Nude Mandatory, I've found that non-nudist accompanying wives tend to steer away from these areas. For example at a nudist RV park I visited, the non-nudist wives could be found sitting by their RV/camper and didn't really venture away much. I can respect that and it's not "distracting."
When there is a sign at the pool area entrance by the showers saying: "Nudity is mandatory beyond this point", or "Please shower before entering the pool area", it doesn't leave much room for interpretation. Those that aren't ready can turn and come back when they are. That keeps everyone in the pool area naked.
That's why I'm a supporter of a strict guideline when it comes to designating "C/O vs Nude Mandatory" areas. I know it helped my wife in the beginning; as she realized when she got to the shower area, that at that point and to move forward, she was going to have to be completely naked like everyone else in there.
Andy made a point that I have seen at our own club with management perhaps have given up on enforcement. It's gone from nudity only club to then members who I seldom saw nude. It was strict enforcement in the pool area however but now this year bathing suits are allowed. I have zero clue how that came about but it did and thus far it's mainly the young ones and only an occasional adult.
No we don't necessary agree with that decision what so ever but then we don't own the place. Take it or leave it is the choice no matter where one attends what ever the management calls.
If you're partner isn't comfortable being naked in front of you or in your own home, you're delusional to think she'll strip off in front of dozens of other naked strangers!
Andy, you're touching on an important point that I'd like to quickly expand on (not that it hasn't many times).
People who have been reading our posts will find several similarities in our experiences and others'. That is not coincidental. And one basic similarity is that our wives were comfortable nude around us.
There is a poll that was taken in the UK that revealed that 16% of women were never nude around their partner. I think if you were to add "interacting while nude", the percentage would probably double or triple.
Today, an interaction between my wife and I occurred that happens nearly daily. We were getting ready to go out, and my wife came out of the bedroom wearing only a bra. She was trying to decide on what to wear, and we discussed her options. The fact that she was near-nude during that interaction was not a "thing" for either one of us. And in the years we've been together, it has never really been. And it's due in part to the fact that I encouraged it.
When your partner is comfortable nude around you, "transitioning" from home to an outdoors space becomes less daunting; especially when some measure of privacy is established, such as hanging out on the "far end of the nude beach" or "away from the pool area." Then the only "challenging part" is being seen nude by other people. And that confidence that be built up over time. Did my wife just start walking up naked to other nudists and starting conversations? Of course not. But being totally comfortable nude around me created the opportunity to go to resorts, and for her to become accustomed to gradually increasing interactions with other nudists.
I know that emphasizing your S/O being comfortable nude around you "first and foremost" will elicit a "no s**t, Sherlock" response for some. Many will give a reason why: "because of the kids", "because she's gotten older", "because she's put on a few pounds", etc... I'm not saying those reasons are invalid. But working on your S/O getting more comfortable naked around you/at home - even if it takes time - will have strong benefits when/if you do visit a nudist resort. You will feel better about taking her, she will probably feel more inclined to join you; not to mention a "warmer" reception from the nudist community.
Anyway...this is not something that hasn't been said before. Just reiterating...
If you're partner isn't comfortable being naked in front of you or in your own home, you're delusional to think she'll strip off in front of dozens of other naked strangers
Best quotable wake up line for those for the many guys that are "stuck" that come to the site and ask how can I get my S/O to participate. Believe me I feel where they are after having lived that life myself. It might even apply to the forced to be closet nudist because of nudity what so ever by anyone is frowned upon. . My Ex might have been 5' nothing but definitely ruled and I know I was not alone in that dept.
His wife is a constant contradiction with nudity. From all his stories and continuing incidents, day to day, I'm irritated with her and I don't even live with her!! We all have a S/O that makes us scratch our heads, from time to time, but his wife is hot and mostly cold with nudity at home and in front of him. But, then a hot day with use of the pool and she acts like a full time nudist. The worse part is she will not talk to him about what concerns her about nudism in general.
This reminds me of one of my first nudist chatpals. We started around the same time (late 90's), developed a friendship and shared our progress with our respective wives. He seemed "stuck" though; as his wife was constantly "hot and cold" about nudity.
What sometimes happens is that the wife is not entirely opposed to nudity in a private setting; but finds discussing it uncomfortable or even "cringe." And if the husband has a strong interest in nudism, she might get concerned about it being taken "too far", i.e. beyond the bounds of her comfort level. If she happens to demonstrate some comfort or confidence with nudity; she might get scared that her husband will interpret it as "openness" to being a nudist. And if she perceives this to be fact, she might immediately "retreat" back into modesty; leaving the husband confused and/or frustrated.
My then-wife initially had some of the same concerns. With all the books and periodicals about nudism all around the house, my constant nudity at home and the time I spent on nudist websites, she was concerned that I'd want her to "just be naked all the time." So on the few occasions where she'd be comfortable naked around the house, any "push" for more consistent nudity on my part would be met with a rebuttal or a return to her "modest ways." Getting us to become AANR members was not an easy task; as she felt that signing off on it meant she would "officially" become a nudist, which she didn't feel applied to her. It took a while to convince her.
Of course I don't know it that's the situation here; but it often has to do with "control." This need to be totally in control of their body - or the level of nudity in their home - or other people's perception of them - is what often leads to these "hot and cold" situations - in my "armchair psychologist" opinion.
Well...my chatfriend eventually chose to just give up. My wife luckily met some nudist women, who showed and explained to her that she wasn't really "giving anything up" by choosing to not wear clothes if she didn't have to.
There is no simple solution here; especially when the wife is not communicating her concerns. Luckily my (current) wife is very vocal about her boundaries so I haven't had to do much work there. But I would start with trying to identify those boundaries; as strenuous and frustrating as it might be.
Oops...there I go going down the rabbit hole again...back to the OP!