Tolerant Nudists
This group is for nudists who are tolerant of others who are not the same as them. For example there are some who have good reasons not to show a picture and others who want a quid-pro-quo picturewise. Some are outgoing whilst others are still finding their feet. Some are sticklers for the rules whilst others are only human. TN has lots of members and the richness is in the veriety
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Is sex all bad?
Return to DiscussionsHere is a question I feel safer asking here than in some other places: Is sex all bad?
Well love-making is a way of cementing a loving relationship. We were given extra nerve endings on the end of the penis and in the clitoris to make it enjoyable. They were given us by whichever god gave us the bodies we unvail in nudity. No doubt Adam and Eve "begat" Kane and Able in the usual way. Without it the human race would be extinct.
What about porn? My son can't tell the difference between a nudist site and a porn site (I can't teach an old dog...). Come to think of it there are quite a few nude sites that are porn. Maybe they have their place.But I can see why the zellots defend the purity of nudity to the hilt, just to compensate for this attitude amongst the "textiles". One thing about porn is that it isusually paid for. Here we see and are seen without payment and by mutual concent.
Andwhat about Lust. Thereare many couples who, when they first get to know each other, can't keep their hands off each other. Then, as the relationship matures, the physical side becomes less significantand the love deepens spiritually. I admit to having a relationship which started with pure sex and went on to become a 30+ year loving marriage. So maybe lust has a place - if only as a starting place for true love. Now (as a widdower) I would be lying if I said I don't like sex for it's own sake.
Is there a place for sex on this site? Is there anything wrong with a little flirting here, or anywhere else? We see itamongst the picturesand the comments. Some would say too much so. Otherssee there is room for it as long as it isn't forced on those who don't want it.If we meet someone here and want to take things tothe next level, I think that should be in private.
There that's my two penny's worth . What do you think? Feel free to tell me I've got it all wrong and...
Sex isn't bad. It's peoples attitudes about it that are bad. Our society, in general, has taught their children from the time they are born that sex is dirty and nudity equals sex. As long as people have that attitude they will continue to see it that way. But, if a person can open their mind and see the natural world as it really is and is meant to be, then then they can get past those archaic notions and allow themselves to truly enjoy nature and nudity at its best. And these people who view nudity and porn with the same eye must be totally without depth and ignorant. But then some people cant see the beauty of a sunset or understand what it is to truly care about someone.
The sexual experience, I believe, is a wonderful gift given to us by God. Its far from being shameful, quite the opposite. It is the media that has trivilised it, made it into something dirty, in the minds of some people.
You say, "It is the media that has trivilised it, made it into something dirty, in the minds of some people."
I don't agree. A person's feelings about sex and nudity go far deeper than that. They're based in an over-all attitude throughout society... western society in particular. If children were left to their own devices and preferences, from the moment they were born they'd be nude and perfectly happy. They would have no hang ups about either sex or nudity. But from the moment a child is born people are covering them up and telling them it's not nice to be naked or to touch yourself. Heaven forbid they should walk around naked and comfortable and a parent goes into fits of apoplexy if they catch a child playing with themself because it feels nice. Any time they're caught doing that they're told to stop and made to think it's a bad thing. No wonder it's so hard for kids, and girls in particular, to feel good about their bodies and sex. After you've been told for 15 or 16 years that those things are bad, you believe it. And then it's difficult to break thru those taboos and be at ease with nakedness and to enjoy sex as we were meant to.
In this season's British Naturists Magazine there is a full page article in which it asks if Tantra is compatable with Naturism. Here are some bits:
The question asks
Tantra adiopts siilar principles to naturism in treating all parts of the body without taboos. There must be no prudery about the one or three triangular bits....Naturism declares that our bodies should be treated honestly and without shame, but insists that social nudity which is integral to naturism has no sexual connotation....
In reply it says
A cultural tendency to overtly sexualise the naked body has led to the need for a safe haven where the naked body is declared non-sexual, so that people may feel safe to expose it. However when human beings come together - whether clothed or unclothed - attraction and response exists....If the phrase no sexual connotations is completely nutral then attraction will easily appropriately and naturally express itself much in the same way as sneezing. If, however, the phrase points to a negation of sexuality, then attraction may come to feel naughty, secret, shameful or taboo. ...Founding values may have tipped towards a nagation of sex , for the valid purpose of creating a safe space for social nudity. However... We are now maturing into a culture whereby this is no longer the case or a necessity...
Read the full article if you can.Tantra includes touching the one or three triangular bits as part of a wider richer experience. Equally sex can be part of a richer experience. To me nudismor naturism is simply being without clothes. We behave in just the same way as when we are wearing clothes. That makes it natural. Unless we have entered a vow of celebacy it includes sex. But we are not rabbits.