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Thanks... been there done that, and continue to do that to this day. just not at clubs anymore. not wasting my money i can use on something more enjoyable for myself.

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Totally agree! I have found my fair share of single males in my travels over the years with not the best of intentions. And sadly, they ruin it for the rest of us with genuine good intentions. Encountered this at Dyer Woods and they actually put up trail cams on the hiking trails to deter, and find and single out the individuals ruining it for the rest of us. They would kick em off the property and ban them if caught. I also encountered this at Empire Haven in NY when it was open a few years ago.

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Totally agree! I have found my fair share of single males in my travels over the years with not the best of intentions. And sadly, they ruin it for the rest of us with genuine good intentions. Encountered this at Dyer Woods and they actually put up trail cams on the hiking trails to deter, and find and single out the individuals ruining it for the rest of us. They would kick em off the property and ban them if caught. I also encountered this at Empire Haven in NY when it was open a few years ago.

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Were any of the single males you met called, Guessthelenghtofthis, or Bigenoughforyoumadam?

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Were any of the single males you met called, Guessthelenghtofthis, or Bigenoughforyoumadam?

Why is it that sometimes, even if provoked, some people seek to antagonize? Is there anything (except lack of empathy) proven by this question?

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If empathy is given then empathy is reciprocated.

If contempt is shown then respect is withheld.

If avoiding a question is preferred then some sarcasm is warranted.

Disagree if you like, its why debate exists.

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Thank you

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... its why debate exists.

It strikes me that debate is to convince observers of a position. Too often, especially in the current cultural climate, debaters quickly switch from logic to insult. In fact, the argument looks much weaker when it is degraded to insult rather than by a convincing argument.

It's too bad (in this transactional world) that empathy must be received in order to be given. This, in fact, seems to be the antithesis of empathy. Likewise, it's unfortunate that respect for others is dependent on their actions rather than one's own. In my view, degrading another is never warranted

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... its why debate exists.

It strikes me that debate is to convince observers of a position. Too often, especially in the current cultural climate, debaters quickly switch from logic to insult. In fact, the argument looks much weaker when it is degraded to insult rather than by a convincing argument.

It's too bad (in this transactional world) that empathy must be received in order to be given. This, in fact, seems to be the antithesis of empathy. Likewise, it's unfortunate that respect for others is dependent on their actions rather than one's own. In my view, degrading another is never warranted

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... its why debate exists.It strikes me that debate is to convince observers of a position. Too often, especially in the current cultural climate, debaters quickly switch from logic to insult. In fact, the argument looks much weaker when it is degraded to insult rather than by a convincing argument.It's too bad (in this transactional world) that empathy must be received in order to be given. This, in fact, seems to be the antithesis of empathy. Likewise, it's unfortunate that respect for others is dependent on their actions rather than one's own. In my view, degrading another is never warranted

As youve quoted me Ill assume your comments are directed at me.

If you read my opening post to the OP, you will read in the first line I showed empathy.

I then tried to explain our experiences from the opposite view of his own, using our wide travels to emphasise that experience.

This was met with utter contempt from him.

If someone on a nudist website calls himself Take A Ruler To It, then I think its a legitimate question to ask what it means. Does not you?

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